Re: Complimentary App Server Choice
Re: Complimentary App Server Choice
- Subject: Re: Complimentary App Server Choice
- From: gndgn via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 14:24:08 +0100
Made my day, thanks! 🤣
> Am 13.02.2020 um 13:30 schrieb Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev
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> LOL!!!!!!
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>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 12:29, Andrus Adamchik <email@hidden
>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
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>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy-haired_Boss
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy-haired_Boss>
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>>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev
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>>> wrote:
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>>> Thank Andrus for you take… really good write up.
>>>
>>> And what is PHBs?
>>>
>>> Gibi
>>>
>>>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 12:25, Andrus Adamchik <email@hidden
>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My opinionated take is the following:
>>>>
>>>> * The "official" JavaEE is dead and is now a pure volunteer effort under
>>>> https://jakarta.ee/ <https://jakarta.ee/> . The "appserver" concept has
>>>> almost disappeared and morphed to something different. All the past market
>>>> leaders have moved on to more lightweight solutions, though some still
>>>> cling to .war deployment.
>>>>
>>>> * SpringBoot is the market leader in the Java world. If you are looking to
>>>> build a marketable Java developer resume, learn SpringBoot.
>>>>
>>>> * If you need to write apps for your org or your customers, and are not
>>>> constrained by the PHBs opinion, use Bootique. It is a better platform in
>>>> the modern appserver-free world. Bootique is "commercially-viable" in a
>>>> sense that there are hundreds of apps that run in prod for a number of
>>>> years. But it is still an open source effort supported by community and a
>>>> mid-sized company (ObjectStyle), so it is sometimes an uphill battle in
>>>> organizations that are looking to conform to the lowest common denominator.
>>>>
>>>> So you decide :)
>>>>
>>>> Andrus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev
>>>>> <email@hidden <mailto:email@hidden>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for that… it looks really interesting…
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it a commercially viable alternative to some of the others like JBoss,
>>>>> Tomcat, Websphere etc..
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to add another feather to my bow but not really sure which
>>>>> architecture to devote time to so that I can work on bigger projects in a
>>>>> team...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 11:16, Andrus Adamchik <email@hidden
>>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are using Bootique: https://bootique.io/ <https://bootique.io/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just like SpringBoot, its idea is that it is not an "appserver". It
>>>>>> gives you a plain Java app with your own "main" method, and a way to
>>>>>> assemble various components together (and also modularity, dependency
>>>>>> injection, consistent configuration and a large collection of
>>>>>> ready-to-use modules). The app can serve web requests, run jobs or do
>>>>>> whatever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unlike SpringBoot, Bootique is much smaller, starts much faster, and
>>>>>> doesn't feel like magic. Also all the apps you write are automatically
>>>>>> equipped with POSIX CLI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrus
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Paul Yu via Webobjects-dev
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>>>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Spring and it’s ecosystem seems to be pretty powerful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> Please excuse iOS autocomplete
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev
>>>>>>>> <email@hidden
>>>>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hey if any one was to use a different app server configuration other
>>>>>>>> than WO what would you choose and why?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What are most companies requesting these days in a Java system?
>>>>>>
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