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Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build
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Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build


  • Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build
  • From: Paul Hoadley via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2022 12:27:08 +0930
  • Feedback-id: i671c40f3:Fastmail

On 29 Jun 2022, at 10:42, Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev
<email@hidden> wrote:

> It’s not a completely different issue is it?
>
> If anyone builds Wonder as part of their CI/CD and is currently using ANT,
> they will need to switch to Maven going forward.

Is that how you build Aaron, or just a hypothetical? (Part of the problem is
that these days we don't even know who everyone is, let alone what they're
doing!)

> While we wish everyone who makes changes to Wonder would make pull requests
> to integrate them but that doesn’t always happen. Those teams essentially
> have a fork of Wonder that they periodically merge public changes into and
> build with ANT.
>
> That said, I can understand why many don’t want to support ANT anymore when
> they don’t even use it. If Maven is the future then people will have to
> change.

At some point the issue just comes down to motivated manpower: there's just no
one left to support the Ant build. It hasn't worked on Jenkins for months, but
no one noticed and no one has the motivation to fix it. I think this is less of
an active decision to drop Ant support, but rather a passive realisation that
there's just no one that's going to do the work.

> Question… I thought Maven was old-hotness once Gradle stepped in? If we are
> talking about moving on, why isn’t Gradle on the table?

Again, it's just motivated manpower: who would build a Gradle plug-in?


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References: 
 >[Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build (From: Henrique Prange via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>)
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 >Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build (From: Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>)
 >Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build (From: Ray Kiddy via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>)
 >Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build (From: Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>)

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