Re: Raise-on-Focus
Re: Raise-on-Focus
- Subject: Re: Raise-on-Focus
- From: William Julien <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:59:40 -0800
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 04:29 AM, Joseph R. Kiniry wrote:
--On vrijdag, 31 januari 2003 14:37 -0800 magenta
<email@hidden> wrote:
IMO, raise-on-focus is a horribly broken way of doing things (as a
personal preference; some people work better with that), and I like to
keep window focus separate from window raising. However, as a result,
working with both X11 windows and Aqua windows using Apple X11 becomes
rather frustrating.
I support this position. Apple's insistence on making only the
topmost window liable for input is a supreme irritation for me. More
often than not, I am unable to find a window set configuration that
will actually let me see data I need *and* input information in
another window because of this policy. This is why I am not using
quartz-wm, but unfortunately, given there is no interleaving of X and
Quartz windows, I'm still far from a comfortable environment.
I work on a many X11 based systems. I find that the system works best
with "focus follows mouse" and "click to raise". Just my $.02
William
I much preferred XDarwin's behavior of raising all windows when the X
server is raised, as it was more compatible with my work style and my
choice of WM.
I'm confused about this mention though. When I activate Apple's X11
(via splat-tab, for example), all of my X windows are brought to the
foreground, each retaining their current relative ordering. Is this
not the behavior you witness? I am running sawfish as my window
manager, btw.
..snip..
In fact, what I'd *really* like to see is a way for Apple X11 to
manage
*all* windows of the system, not just X11 windows. I'd love it if I
could
manage my Safari and Finder windows with pwm. :)
Indeed, this would be nice, but I don't believe we'll see it. Perhaps
it isn't even possible, given the default raise-on-focus behavior of
Quartz.
Has anyone seen a tool that will change Finder's/Quartz's
raise-on-activate focus behavior? I have yet to find such a thing.
Thanks,
Joe
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Joseph R. Kiniry http://www.kindsoftware.com/
KindSoftware, LLC ID 78860581 ICQ 4344804
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