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Re: Raise-on-Focus
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Re: Raise-on-Focus


  • Subject: Re: Raise-on-Focus
  • From: "Joseph R. Kiniry" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:29:52 +0100

--On vrijdag, 31 januari 2003 14:37 -0800 magenta <email@hidden> wrote:

IMO, raise-on-focus is a horribly broken way of doing things (as a
personal preference; some people work better with that), and I like to
keep window focus separate from window raising.  However, as a result,
working with both X11 windows and Aqua windows using Apple X11 becomes
rather frustrating.

I support this position. Apple's insistence on making only the topmost window liable for input is a supreme irritation for me. More often than not, I am unable to find a window set configuration that will actually let me see data I need *and* input information in another window because of this policy. This is why I am not using quartz-wm, but unfortunately, given there is no interleaving of X and Quartz windows, I'm still far from a comfortable environment.


I much preferred XDarwin's behavior of raising all windows when the X
server is raised, as it was more compatible with my work style and my
choice of WM.

I'm confused about this mention though. When I activate Apple's X11 (via splat-tab, for example), all of my X windows are brought to the foreground, each retaining their current relative ordering. Is this not the behavior you witness? I am running sawfish as my window manager, btw.


..snip..

In fact, what I'd *really* like to see is a way for Apple X11 to manage
*all* windows of the system, not just X11 windows.  I'd love it if I could
manage my Safari and Finder windows with pwm. :)

Indeed, this would be nice, but I don't believe we'll see it. Perhaps it isn't even possible, given the default raise-on-focus behavior of Quartz.


Has anyone seen a tool that will change Finder's/Quartz's raise-on-activate focus behavior? I have yet to find such a thing.

Thanks,
Joe
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Joseph R. Kiniry                          http://www.kindsoftware.com/
KindSoftware, LLC                         ID 78860581      ICQ 4344804
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