Re: why run any window manager?
Re: why run any window manager?
- Subject: Re: why run any window manager?
- From: Eric Fielding <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 22:31:55 +0100
Max,
I have had "hung" windows under X11 with quartz-wm that I could not
"close" but I could still "minimize" to get them out of the way.
Cheers,
++Eric
Max Waterman wrote:
Actually, this discussion is more concerning the 'minimise' function.
It slipped into the 'close' function through careless use of
terminology on my part.
So, no, I don't really want to close the application or the window. My
mistake; sorry.
I think minimising should be done only by the window manager with no
action on the part of the application. Of course, the application
should know about it, so the window manager should send a signal or
some such notification, to that effect.
Max.
Randy Ford wrote:
On Monday, May 19, 2003, at 12:30 PM, Max Waterman wrote:
Right. I, er, 'dislike' this behaviour. If I ask the window manager
to close a window, *it* should close it, not the application running
in the window.
When you click on the close button on the title of a window, you are
dealing with the window manager, not the app. The same is true if
you use a resize handle, maximize button, etc.: you are asking the
window manager to resize the window. Of course, in both cases, the
window manager will ask the app to do so. That way, the app can
decide if it needs to clean up before it closes the window, or, in
the case of resize, if it wants to allow the resize, and if it needs
to move/resize items in the window to handle the new size.
I believe that you are wanting to kill the windows connection to the
X server, not just close the window. Some windows managers provide a
mechanism to ask the X server to kill connections, but, since it may
have unintended effects, many don't. You can also use xkill(1)
yourself to ask the X server to kill the window. If you really want
it to look like quartz-wm is killing the connection, you can fool
yourself by adding xkill to the applications menu. Without
parameters, it will ask you to point and click on the window whose
connection you wish to kill.
randy.
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