Re: Using Apple's standard emacs with X11?
Re: Using Apple's standard emacs with X11?
- Subject: Re: Using Apple's standard emacs with X11?
- From: Richard Johnson <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:40:18 -0700
Ok, since I'm the person who started this, let me kill it off. :)
I was simply thinking that it would be nice for Apple to include the
X11 support in their pre-installed version of Emacs such that people
would not need to reinstall another version just to get this. That's
all.
I didn't think about the fact that including this support in their
pre-installed version would also entail including all the requisite X11
libraries used by that version of Emacs, which they (obviously)
wouldn't want to include in all MacOS X distributions for the same
reasons they don't include X11 in all MacOS X distributions.
Given this, I can completely understand why they do what they do and
I'm happy with it.
(Now, of course, if MacOS 10.3 will include the X11 support standard,
then there's no reason not to include the X11 support in Emacs as well.
I'm not sure if X11 will be standard in 10.3 or not. Probably not,
I'm guessing?)
/raj
On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 02:31 PM, Gareth Eason wrote:
I'm assuming that this thread was started by people who want to
use their Apple machines running OS X as an X-Client, running the
X-Server on some other machine (possible Mac / possibly not.)
So in this situation it would be useful for people who want to use
the X11 version of emacs if it was preinstalled by Apple. But OS X was
never really meant to be used as an X-Client AFAICS. I use a Mac
laptop running X11, so I always use X11 on Mac as an X-Server - which
it works pretty well at. I have X-Apps running from Linux, Solaris,
HP-UX etc. boxes and they all appear on my Mac laptop.
If people want to do things the other way around, I'm hoping that
they have enough know-how and ability to install X11 versions of the
appropriate software(s.) Similarly, if you're using an Apple system as
an X-Client, surely you're also using it in a server role? So RAM and
HDD space should really not be an issue...
If I've completely misunderstood the point of the topic, then I can
only apologise.
Best regards,
-->Gar
On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 10:11 pm, Massimo Marino wrote:
On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 10:49 PM, Gareth Eason wrote:
<flame-retardant_jacket>
I've solved the whole e-macs/X11 problem quite neatly by simply
using vim. emacs is just vim for beginners ;-)
</flame-retardant_jacket>
I know it is a joke but I still missing the point of all this thread:
what is supposed to be the problem with emacs and X11? If you do not
have X11 environment available emacs launches within the terminal and
Apple cannot but build it without X11 otherwise it should force X11
installation.
If you subsequently install X11 - because you use the MAc as a BSD
Unix platform - then you may compile emacs with X support and it will
launch in its own window. IF, with the same supporting X11 emacs
build you'd happen to want it in the terminal window (no autonomous
windows per se) simply launch it as 'emacs -nw' .
What is again the problem? Space? 10 MB.
Cheers
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Euterpe Oy ~ Yliopistonkatu 4, Jyvdskyld 40100, Finland
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Euterpe Oy ~ Yliopistonkatu 4, Jyvdskyld 40100, Finland
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