Fwd: Re: X11 and KDE [on top of OS X]
Fwd: Re: X11 and KDE [on top of OS X]
- Subject: Fwd: Re: X11 and KDE [on top of OS X]
- From: SA <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:49:10 +0100
John,
Err no I haven't tried this - I couldn't get kde to install with apple's X11
so I deleted this - no I don't have it. I would be willing to have a go but
I don't know if I can (or how to) install apple's X11 alongside the non-
apple one...
Any advice?
Thanks,
SA
> Well, have you tried Apple's X11 but using kde instead of Apple's own
> window manager? This has been done before...
>
> John
>
> On Apr 11, 2005, at 13:25, SA wrote:
> > John,
> >
> > matlab - it segfaults (bus error) when using kde - mathworks say "use
> > apple's
> > X11". I think this is a well known problem - I have tried many things
> > but
> > can't get it to work - my present solution is that since I am network
> > tied
> > due to the license manager being on a remote machine I run matlab on a
> > remote
> > (non mac) machine. One day I'll be mobile and it will just have to be
> > octave
> > instead...
> >
> > I have previously had it working with apple's X11 under aqua and by
> > exporting
> > the display to another machine, since the new X11 it just segfaults
> > right
> > after the X11 splash screen.
> >
> > Here is the complaint:
> >
> > ^[]0;Matlab R13: matt@mogadon^G
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -
> > Bus error detected at Mon Apr 11 18:17:43 2005
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -
> >
> > Configuration:
> > MATLAB Version: 7.0.0.19901 (R14)
> > Operating System: Darwin 7.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec
> > 22
> > 14:26:17 PST 2004; root:xnu/xnu-517.11.1.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power
> > Macintosh
> > Window System: The XFree86 Project, Inc (40399016), display
> > mogadon:0.0
> > Current Visual: 0x22 (class 4, depth 24)
> > Virtual Machine: Java is not enabled
> > Default Charset: US-ASCII
> >
> > r0 = 012d53f4 r8 = 00000041 r16 = 00000000 r24 = bfffe5d0
> > r1 = bfffe3f0 r9 = 00000018 r17 = 00000000 r25 = bffff620
> > r2 = 00000000 r10 = 00000018 r18 = 00000000 r26 = 004c0108
> > r3 = 00001f02 r11 = 012ea27c r19 = 00000000 r27 = 00000000
> > r4 = 02326530 r12 = 90c347ac r20 = 00000000 r28 = a0c30004
> > r5 = 00000000 r13 = 00000000 r21 = 00000000 r29 = 00001f02
> > r6 = bfffe0e0 r14 = 00000000 r22 = 00000000 r30 = bfffe3f0
> > r7 = 0000004d r15 = 00000000 r23 = bfffe6a0 r31 = 90c347b4
> > cr = 44004212 lr = 90c347b4 xer = 00000004 ctr = 90c347ac
> > vrsave = 00000000
> > Stack Trace:
> > [0] libGL.dylib:0x90c347d8
> > [1] glren.dylib:glren::GLRenderEngine::initOpenGLVersionInfo() + 36
> > bytes
> > [2] glren.dylib:OpenGLBootstrapOpengl() + 148 bytes
> > [3] glren.dylib:OpenGLGetData + 32 bytes
> > [4] libmwhg.dylib:setupRendererEnumStr + 136 bytes
> > [5] libmwhg.dylib:hgInitialize + 84 bytes
> > [6]
> > libmwmcr.dylib:mcrGlobalOptionsInternal::mcr_initialize0(MfileReader*,
> > bool) + 1248 bytes
> > [7]
> > libmwmcr.dylib:mcrGlobalOptionsInternal::mcr_initialize(MfileReader*,
> > bool) + 96 bytes
> > [8] libmwmcr.dylib:mcrInstance::mcrInstance[unified](mcrOptions&,
> > MfileReader*) + 412 bytes
> > [9] MATLAB:mcrMain(int, char**) + 264 bytes
> > [10] MATLAB:main + 240 bytes
> > [11] MATLAB:_start + 392 bytes
> > [12] MATLAB:start + 48 bytes
> > MATLAB program terminated.
> >
> >
> > I am shortly going to try a newer release I'll post the results...
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > SA
> >
> > On Monday 11 Apr 2005 14:22, you wrote:
> >> I'm glad you enjoy the "non-dogmatic" free-for-all that is the case
> >> with KDE/Gnome/random X11 apps.
> >
> > if only there was a 3 button mouse and proper "focus follows mouse"
> > option I
> > might be able to adapt but 10 years of X11 is hard to forget...
> >
> >> There is no way to make a native Mac app run under X. There's no such
> >> thing as 'redirecting the display' of native Mac apps. Unfortunate,
> >> but
> >> true.
> >
> > Shame I agree a real missed trick.
> >
> >> As to MATLAB -- how does it fail to work? Can you give us some error
> >> messages or other details? What platform are you running it on?
> >>
> >> John Francini
> >>
> >> On Apr 11, 2005, at 6:19, SA wrote:
> >>> Yes - I do this -
> >>>
> >>> It actually took quite a look of trial and error but here is what I
> >>> have and
> >>> here is how I did it:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I haven't replaced aqua with KDE but I have both running on different
> >>> virtual
> >>> screens, when in aqua I can switch to X by clicking the X11 icon and
> >>> when in
> >>> KDE I can switch to aqua with a hot key combination apple-cntl-a I
> >>> think.
> >>>
> >>> KDE works very nicely and it is relaxing to do away with the dogmatic
> >>> interface that aqua insists on.
> >>>
> >>> I used fink to install KDE but I had a great deal of trouble doing
> >>> this while
> >>> apple's X11 was installed so I had to delete this first (drag the
> >>> relevant
> >>> X11 directories to the waste bin and empty it!). Then I used fink to
> >>> install
> >>> one of the alternative X11s and then KDE and a whole lot of other
> >>> stuff.
> >>>
> >>> The aqua+KDE solution is pretty good all the mac apps still run in
> >>> aqua
> >>> because they don't seem to be X-aware (does anyone know how to make
> >>> an
> >>> aqua
> >>> app redirect its display?) so I can still use my digital camera etc.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The only problem I have now is that I cannot run matlab properly
> >>> (matlab will
> >>> run provided the DISPLAY is pointed at any machine but my mac but
> >>> will
> >>> not
> >>> run at all using the X11 I have - this is ridiculous (mathworks
> >>> please
> >>> note)). Anyone know a solution?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> SA
> >>>
> >>>
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