Re: VNC and/or Exporting Display from OSX Leopard to other *NIX
Re: VNC and/or Exporting Display from OSX Leopard to other *NIX
- Subject: Re: VNC and/or Exporting Display from OSX Leopard to other *NIX
- From: "Mark J. Reed" <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:47:19 -0500
There is no display number outside of X11. That is a purely X11
concept. In the native Mac world there is only one display, so
there's no need to identify which one you're using. Feel free to
unset DISPLAY if you're not using any X11 apps; it has no effect
whatsoever on e.g. iPhoto.
If you want to have multiple sessions of Mac apps, yes,
fast-user-switching is the way to go. But all it does is allow more
than one user to be signed in graphically at the same time. You can
switch between the sessions on the console without having to log out
and back in. But you don't get multiple sessions that are
simultaneously visible.
On 11/23/07, Chris Mackowski <email@hidden> wrote:
> Just wanted to thank all who replied !
> Mark Reed
> Jonathan Prescott Volker Schmidt
> Andrew J. Hesford
>
> Ok so it seems that I can't remote in the way I would
> on a typical UNIX machine. Thats fine.
> Regarding Apple Remote Desktop::
> It works with all the VNC clients I have -- No issue
> there.
> Next Question:
> I can only compare it to what I might do on another
> UNIX.
> If :0 is attached to the physical display. I could
> launch a new vncserver on :1. This display would be
> independent of the display on :0.
> I read a post somewhere and now can't seemed to find
> it, that stated this was possible on OSX.
> It involved two user accounts and "fast user
> switching". I setup another user account can enabled
> "fast user switching" However when I remote in, it is
> still a shared session of the :0 display. I would like
> to connect to a session that is different than the one
> running on the physical display.
>
> Hopefully, I've explained this sufficiently.
>
> Thanks again!
> -Chris
>
>
>
>
> --- "Mark J. Reed" <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> > 1. Native Mac OS X apps do not use X11. Totally
> > separate window
> > systems, not infrequently at odds with each other,
> > as we see from the
> > discussion on this list about problems with the X11
> > stuff.
> >
> > 2. There is an X11 version of VNC server, which, as
> > someone mentioned,
> > starts its own X server independent of the console
> > display. It is of
> > no real use or interest on a Mac.
> >
> > 3. The mac does, however, support exporting its
> > native display, and
> > you can use any vnc client to connect to it. There
> > are multiple vnc
> > clients available on solaris (realvnc, tightvnc...)
> > and you should be
> > able to find one you like.
> >
> > 4. The mac also supports Apple Remote Desktop, but I
> > don't know of any
> > non-mac client for this. AFAIK is not the same as
> > the Windows Remote
> > Desktop protocol, which does have clients for other
> > platforms.
> >
> >
> > On 11/23/07, Jonathan Prescott
> > <email@hidden> wrote:
> > > Chris:
> > >
> > > Unlike Linux, X11 is not the native windowing
> > system for Mac OSX. Most
> > > applications you will find in /Applications
> > interact with the screen via
> > > the native windowing system (Quartz, et al), which
> > does not operate
> > > remotely the same as X11. You have to use
> > something like VNC to share
> > > the displays with a remote computer in order to
> > interact with native
> > > mode applications. X11 applications running on
> > the Mac will operate
> > > like they are supposed to.
> > >
> > > I'm using xtightvncviewer on my Ubuntu laptop to
> > talk to my Mac Mini.
> > > It's compatible with Apple's Remote Desktop
> > Sharing capabilities
> > > packaged with Tiger and Leopard
> > >
> > > Jonathan
> > >
> > >
> > > Jonathan
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 10:54 -0800, Chris Mackowski
> > wrote:
> > > > Hello All,
> > > > I am a Solaris Admin and I just purchased my
> > first
> > > > mac.It is a mini which is attached to my LCD TV.
> > The
> > > > primary purpose was for FrontRow. I purchased
> > the
> > > > 2.0ghz with Superdrive, so I will also be able
> > to turn
> > > > my media (pictures and video) into dvd's. I want
> > to be
> > > > able to run my i* apps (idvd, imovie, iphoto)
> > but on
> > > > my Linux/Solaris laptop.
> > > >
> > > > VNC:
> > > > I connect to the mini right now via vine vnc
> > server
> > > > from my laptop. The first issue I have is that
> > my
> > > > laptop is 1920x1200 and the mini is 1366x768. On
> > other
> > > > UNIX vncservers, you can specify a custom
> > geometry. So
> > > > I can fill the laptop display with the remote
> > display.
> > > > Can I download the vnc source, and complie it on
> > the
> > > > mac? That would work on another UNIX, but what
> > about
> > > > OSX. I want to be able to run:
> > > > # vncserver -geometry 1920x1200
> > > >
> > > > X Exporting Display:
> > > > I have been able to ssh into the mac mini,
> > export my
> > > > display and launch x apps (located in
> > /usr/X11/bin).
> > > > The display is correctly exported back to my
> > laptop
> > > > running Suse.
> > > > This fails when trying to launch apps under
> > > > /Applications/.....
> > > > The app will then display on the local display
> > but not
> > > > the remote one.
> > > >
> > > > Here is the post I made to the Apple forums.
> > Judging
> > > > from the response, it seems I am stuck with vine
> > and
> > > > it's limitations.
> > > > I wanted to ask here and see if anyone has
> > better
> > > > ideas.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1255477&tstart=0
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Chris
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