Re: XQuartz quextion
Re: XQuartz quextion
- Subject: Re: XQuartz quextion
- From: Martin Costabel <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:00:58 +0100
William Davis wrote:
On Nov 24, 2007, at 3:18 PM, dp wrote:
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Has there been a statement issued describing how this awful product
was included in the Leopard distribution? There may be a silver lining
I've missed.
Disappointed in Seattle
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...X.org is the keeper and primary owner of these bits, not
Apple.....Apple does not own or exert significant control over the X.org
bits and I doubt that anyone would wish to change that fact....Apple
bundles X11, Apple contributes what engineering resources it can to the
X.org project, that's the long and short of it...
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Ben Byer (CoreOS / BSD Technology Group, XDarwin maintainer) is the main
Apple developer working to resolve all the issues with X11 in Leopard.
In the past weeks, he started posting at the XDarwin Wiki
<http://www.x.org/wiki/XDarwin> non official binary and source releases
of Xquartz with fixes to issues that have been discovered in X11.app
since it was released.
I think one of the things the contributors to this list should
concentrate on now is to press Apple to release a softwareupdate with
the fixes that exist.
The simple act of replacing Leopard's /usr/X11/bin/Xquartz by
Xquartz-1.2a11 from the XDarwin wiki fixes all the serious bugs that
make users angry when they encounter Leopard's X11.
It is really *urgent* that this replacement happens via softwareupdate,
and *soon*.
The remaining usability problems (like startup behavior or configuration
interface of X11.app, or key bindings for Alt-L) can be discussed and
corrected at a much more leisurely pace.
Unfortunately, judging from past performance, I am not optimistic about
Apple doing the necessary and decent thing soon. Most probably they will
leave people cursing and despairing for about 12 months, at which point
they will release an updated X11 that fixes about two thirds of the bugs
and introduces a couple of new ones.
I would love to be wrong about this.
Now if only someone could make the case that Leopard's Xquartz poses a
security problem... The fix would appear on softwareupdate within two
days. Indeed, couldn't those regular
'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'
crashes be exploited to execute arbitrary code ;-) ?
--
Martin
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