Re: X11 Apps and Fink / Macports
Re: X11 Apps and Fink / Macports
- Subject: Re: X11 Apps and Fink / Macports
- From: "Joseph W. Losco" <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:51:53 -0400
Wow, I haven't heard of the Gentoo Portage till you said that. That
looks very interesting at the least. I'll have to dig around and see
what the packages look like. At least in the meantime until it is
that easy. *grins*
Thanks
On Jun 5, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Tom Scogland wrote:
Fink does use aptitude, the debian package manager, but the
repositories have to be seperate. Linux runs ELF, a.out, and possibly
some other binary formats depending on how the kernel is set up,
unfortunately OSX does not as far as I'm aware. It uses the special
binary format offered by mach to allow things like universal binaries
(single binary file which is actually two largely different
executables). So, until such time as there is a program like wine to
allow the execution of linux binaries in a different environment, it
can't use the ubuntu repos. Now, that said, they could use the ubuntu
*source* repositories, and just pray that the source compiles, that
could work, or use gentoo's emerge (in fact this project exists, osx
portage or something like that, if you google around you'll find it)
since those options would create the correct binary. Of course, the
source is not certain either, since osx doesn't offer everything linux
does, I mean it took until leopard to get a non file based semaphore,
there are some issues there.
To sum up, short answer, no, it's not possible, long answer, if you
had enough time (years) you could make the binary dists from linux
work, or you could use the source repos, or to save time and
difficulty over either of those one could pull from the BSD
distributions, but none of them have all that many more packages than
macports right now.
Really do wish it would be that easy though... *gets a wistful look
on his face*
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Joseph W. Losco
<email@hidden> wrote:
Hello Usersgroup,
I've been reading for about 6 months or so, but never really got
involved in
discussion because I don't have anywhere the knowledge of most of
the users
here. But I've been wondering something in the back of my mind for
quite
some time now, and figured I might as well ask.
I started with X11 in Ubuntu, and got spoiled pretty quick with the
massive
amount of packages available and through the repository installer
that they
have. And they've been rapidly becoming a very strong operating
system, but
I got tired of the hardware issues and not being able to get
programs I use
all the time working without some serious tinkering. That was
about 6
months ago, when I bought my Macbook pro and started playing with
Fink,
because of the dpkg installer, and how close it was to debian
styles.
However I found out pretty quick that the packages available are
not near
what was available for Ubuntu, I then tried MacPorts and found
pretty much
the same thing. I tried compiling myself with a prefix to put
things in a
third directory tree, but ran into issues because I'm not sure of
all of the
ins and outs in getting all of the linking and flags correct.
So after my longer winded introduction, my question is
I know this probably isn't possible right now but, how hard
would it
be to link to something such as the ubuntu repositories and install
debian
packages, or to do a source install from the debian/ubuntu
repositories.
The way Fink works, I'd think its pretty close, but maybe I'm not
clear on
how it has to be compiled for OSX. I mean is there a reason that
Fink uses
its own repository since it uses the debian type installer?
Thanks in advance for any opinions, comments, etc.
Joe
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