Re: X11 2.3.1 on Macbook Pro, Enlightenment, request for feedback on issues
Re: X11 2.3.1 on Macbook Pro, Enlightenment, request for feedback on issues
- Subject: Re: X11 2.3.1 on Macbook Pro, Enlightenment, request for feedback on issues
- From: Jeremy Huddleston <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:54:08 -0700
On Sep 24, 2008, at 15:01, Dave Ray wrote:
Thanks Jeremy for the prompt feedback! Notes below...
On Sep 24, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
On Sep 24, 2008, at 12:07, Dave Ray wrote:
Enlightenment window manager puts a thin horizontal bar at the top
of the screen, which is a "grab bar" for the different workspaces.
Under Apple's stock X11 implementation, Enlightenment would draw
the grab bar just below OS-X's menu bar. Workspaces could be
grabbed, moved as they were designed. Under the development X11
2.3.1, Enlightenment draws the grab bars underneath the OS-X menu
bar, so they are invisible and inaccessible. I can switch
workspaces other ways within the window manager, but this is a
major impediment. It would be better if the X11 screen area was
below the OS-X menubar.
Is there a setting I am missing, or something I could add to a
config file to take care of this?
Hmm... this is going to be a pickle to deal with. We're reporting
the full screen size because that is what is going to be used when
we enable full screen support in the WM or when we enable rooted
mode (also fullscreen without the mac menu bar)...
I'll probably have to add in some logic for the transition between
these phases much like when a new monitor is plugged in... hmm...
Thanks for the feedback. ok.. it's currently by design. Is there an
xorg.conf fie or some config file that I can use to override the
defaults on the screen size? I cannot find an xorg.conf file
anywhere. That would be a very useful workaround in the meantime.
xorg.conf is for the xorg/xfree86 DDX, not the XQuartz DDX. Your
preferences are mostly in X11->Preferences (with a few extras that you
can read about in the XQuartz man page that you need to set directly
using defaults).
3. An xterm is being launched by X11.app,
http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/X11-UsersFAQ#Suppressingxtermlaunchingbydefault
The instructions worked, thanks. Odd, I did not see xterm when I
looked in the plist files... maybe I missed it.
I recommend the utility Lingon to disable X11 in launchd.
Eh... why are you disabling X11 in launchd?
Under Apple's X11, when I start X11, only what I have in
my .xinitrc file is launched. When I exit the window manager with
its own X11-based menus, X11.app also exits automatically. This
would be the desirable behavior for the development X11 release.
That is the behavior. We are using xinit, so this behavior is the
same on OSX as it is on Linux.
Hmmm.. I am not seeing that on my system. When I exit Enlightenment
WM, X11.app continues to run until I quit it manually.
hmm... waitasec... yeah, you're right... hmm... I think I just figured
this out... I don't have a solution for it and I'll have to think
about it a bit...
I ran top in a terminal window to see what X11-related processes
were running after quitting my WM, and only X11.app was running in
that state. Is this a bug?
Yeah, kinda... more like I didn't predict people trying to use X11 on
OSX this way quite yet (I wanted some breathing time with a working
quartz-wm X11 before people tried things like other WM/SMs).
Here is my .xinitrc::
source /etc/bashrc
exec /usr/local/bin/e16
I previously had "quartz-wm --only-proxy &" on the second line, and
I thought that was causing X11.app not to quit. But I removed that
line, and it is still staying open.
Once I resolve this, my next step is to put that line back.
That's not going to be resolved for a while... Please file a bug
report and hopefully I can figure something out for 2.3.2 for ya.
--Jeremy
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