Re: 2.5.0 weirdness
Re: 2.5.0 weirdness
- Subject: Re: 2.5.0 weirdness
- From: "Adam D. I. Kramer" <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:35:08 -0700 (PDT)
OK. I have since verified that sometimes I lose focus and sometimes X11 pops
to the front even when another application is runing. For example, I'm using
powerpoint, and then...gee, all my xterms. Hello, xterms. But Powerpoint
still has "focus" in the sense that my keypresses go to powerpoint, which is
hidden behind my xterms.
But here's the thing--this all started with 2.5.0. This bug is not present
in the Snow Leopard standard install. So perhaps there *is* something
XQuartz.app can do about it?
--Adam
On Sun, 4 Apr 2010, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
You guys might want to CC yourself to this ticket:
http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/ticket/58
The issue can't really be fixed by XQuartz.app itself. If this is an
annoyance, I suggest you file a bug report with Apple
(http://bugreport.apple.com) and indicate that it is likely a duplicate of
7150340
Thanks,
Jeremy
On Apr 4, 2010, at 12:35, Adam D. I. Kramer wrote:
The problem you describe, Doug, is a problem I have had before--but not
since upgrading to Snow Leopard.
Only minorly relatedly, I would say that "loss of focus" is the single most
annoying thing that occurs in my use of OSX broadly speaking. Whether it's a
dialog box or a new window or anything, if I didn't click on it or somehow
intentionally direct myself to it, I really don't want to be typing in there
instead of where I chose to be.
Is there any software anyone has heard of that can turn off the ability of
any program to steal focus?
--Adam
On Sun, 4 Apr 2010, Doug Carter wrote:
For what it's worth, I've seen this (and a related problem) since
2.3.2. I've always suspected that it's a conflict between a OS window
manager event and the X server. The related problem is sometimes a
currently in-use xterm will lose focus for 1-3 seconds. Sometimes the
focus returns, other times I need to click in the xterm to get the
focus back.
I've always assumed these problems were at a deeper event level, and
because they are so random and impossible to reproduce, I've just lived
with them. Like the ticket referenced below, I'd say it's a good bet that
there is some other process that is messing with focus.
Doug
On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 12:00:24AM -0700, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
I have no idea what might be causing this, and I can't think of any change
between 2.3.4 and 2.5.0 that would have this type of effect.
Please do try to narrow it down. I wonder if it is related to
http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/ticket/58
--Jeremy
On Apr 3, 2010, at 23:51, Adam D. I. Kramer wrote:
Hi,
Every so often, now that I have upgraded to 2.5.0, when I'm typing
in an xterm, for some reason all of the windows open in Xquartz.app will
come forward. For example, if this window is the only one "above" firefox
in
the background, for some reason and in a manner I cannot yet predict or
cause, all of the other windows will come forward as if I had clicked the
XQuartz icon in the dock.
The windows' order is not being rearranged...this window stays on
top. I'm not losing any keystrokes. It's annoying when I'm typing here
and
reading a webpage.
This was not an issue under Apple's X11 for 10.6. It only happens
once every few hours, so I don't know if it happened during the short
period
of time during which I used rc1 or rc2.
I'll certainly write back if I have any way to reproduce it, but for
the mean time, Any idea what might be causing this?
--Adam
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