Re: problem with X11 toggling full screen temporarily by itself
Re: problem with X11 toggling full screen temporarily by itself
- Subject: Re: problem with X11 toggling full screen temporarily by itself
- From: robert delius royar <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:54:08 -0400
- Organization: An Apple OS X end user
- Priority: normal
Tue, 26 Oct 2010 (11:57 +1100 UTC) raf wrote:
Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
You probably have a background process which is running periodically and taking focus away from X11.
http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/ticket/58
thanks. i started auditing my processes and the last 3 times
it happened coincided with GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent running
so that looks like the culprit.
according to:
http://www.google.com/support/installer/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=147176
i should be able to disable this agent with:
This debate on losing focus has cropped on on at least two lists I read
and on the Apple support forums. I have seen a number of candidates
listed as the cause (e.g. third-party update agents, iCal agents, iTunes
agents, &c.), and in many cases users have reported that stopping those
agents fixes the problem. But in the follow ups, most report back that
the fix was temporary. The only thing I can say is that on my SL 2010
iMac and MBP, the loss is so fast that it is not noticeable in most
cases. But then, I'll probably have to recall that statement now that I
have made it publically *8^) I suspect there is a cargo cult lurking
in this real anomaly.
defaults write com.google.Keystone.Agent checkInterval 0
but that's a lie. it still runs every 59 minutes (roughly)
causing the full screen toggle.
hmm, i might need to actually uninstall GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent
and google chrome and google earth to stop this happening. it's a
bit extreme but i can live with it. i'd much rather have X11
working properly than use either of those programs but it's a
shame to have to choose between the two.
perhaps i can disable the agent via its LaunchAgent plist
instead (i.e. com.google.keystone.agent.plist). i'll try
that and if it doesn't work, i'll uninstall all the google
software.
it seems there could be an endless supply of programs that
might steal focus. it's a pity that x11 can't grab focus
and refuse to relinquish it. :-)
many, many thanks.
cheers,
raf
On Oct 24, 2010, at 19:17, raf wrote:
macbookpro-mid2010, macosx-10.6.4, xquartz-{2.3.5,2.5.3}
hi,
i spend most of the time in full screen X11. ever since i
started using macosx-10.6.x, i've had the problem that
occasionally, X11 toggles out of full screen mode
temporarily for its own reasons. it's behaving almost (but
not quite) as though i'd pressed Command-Option-A twice even
though i haven't.
full screen usually comes back by itself within a split
second or a few seconds. sometimes it takes longer. normally
i wait for it to come back by itself. if it takes more than
a few seconds i give up waiting for it and switch to another
app and back again in order to bring back full screen mode
(because, strangely, pressing Command-Option-A when this
happens doesn't bring back full screen mode).
also, when i was using xmodmap to remap the capslock key to
underscore, the toggling out of full screen and back would
be accompanied by telltale underscores littering whatever
xterm had the keyboard focus. if i left my laptop for a
while there would often be several new underscores when i
returned indicating that the toggling had happened several
times in my absence. so whatever is happening involves a
simulated capslock keypress or two. at least that's not
happening anymore now that i'm using the lovely programs
KeyRemap4MacBook and PCKeyboardHack to remap capslock.
i thought it might have something to do with ntpd adjusting
the time but the last time it happened (a few seconds before
i typed this) was about 3 minutes after the most recent ntpd
time update so that's not it.
any ideas what might be happening?
is there anything i can do to stop it?
cheers,
raf
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