Re: problems installing xquartz
Re: problems installing xquartz
- Subject: Re: problems installing xquartz
- From: Cameron Simpson <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 08:34:06 +1100
On 14Dec2012 16:11, Brandon Allbery <email@hidden> wrote:
| On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Jim Graham <email@hidden> wrote:
| > But at least some of those are add-ons, not a part of stock X11. Is X11
| > itself to blame if someone writes some incompatible code for an add-on?
|
| Ok, fine, X11 is to blame for nothing, it's ALL the fault of applications.
|
| What you're missing is that that is, itself, the problem. And it's X11's
| fault because it is an explicit X11 policy to refuse to define a consistent
| user interface; in other words, official X11 policy is that every program
| has a license to behave unlike any other program. This does not produce
| usable systems, except in certain limited microcosms.
OTOH, it produces a wide variety of WM UI styles reflecting the many
peosonal preferences out there. As opposed to the sterile monocultures in
MacOSX and Windows.
The ICCCM stuff is supposed to allow consistent UI behaviour for a lot
of stuff within a given WM, so that apps can be presented in some
respsects at least consistently but differently to users with different
WMs.
Of course, that mostly covers "outside the app" stuff anyway, and then
there are app bugs to go with it... Because, as you say, the really low
level stuff is available and differently used by the various widget
toolkits.
Cheers,
--
Cameron Simpson <email@hidden>
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