Re: XQuartz on 10.6
Re: XQuartz on 10.6
- Subject: Re: XQuartz on 10.6
- From: Jeremy Huddleston <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 14:45:04 -0800
On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Daniel . wrote:
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> On Jan 7, 2012, at 1:08 AM, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
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>> On Jan 6, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Daniel wrote:
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>>> Whoops!! It ain't working after all! XQuartz runs but no 'Wined" app will run. xterm, xeyes and other 'built-in' apps run but not 'Wined' ones.
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>> What is a "Wined" app? Seeing as how other X11 applications work fine, I'm inclined to blame your "Wined" app.
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> A 'Wined' application is a Windows application 'wrapped' a Mac .app package. Some call it 'bottling'.
Ok, so you're using a .app bundle to somehow execute a windows application through wine. There's really nothing fundamentally different about this than any other X11 application from our perspective.
> So, some company or individual has coded it themselves, e.g., GIMP,
gimp is not a windows application. It's a GTK+ aplication, but yes some people have "bottled" X11 applications in this way, such as GIMP, WireSkark, OpenOffice, ...
> or taken a product like WineBottler or WineSkin and created a Mac app.
Yeah, it's not really a mac app. It's a poor hack, but yeah...
> Inside the Resource directory resides a fake windows system along with most of, if not all, the Wine components. WineSkin even goes so far as to include a custom version of XQuartz built-in so everything is in one package and is just a drag and drop installation.
Well that is in no way supported by me, obviously.
> I found that my 'Wined' applications were not working because of some component in X11 was not working, like maybe missing or corrupted or whatever. I discovered this by re-installing X11 from the SL install disc. Restarted. Then the Wined apps wanted to use X11. I logged out & in but didn't change the situation.
Seeing as how your applications provide everything including their own separate server, that's completely out of my hands. If you provide a crash log or some other evidence that shows error messages about why they fail to start, I can give you pointers, but it does not sounds like an XQuartz bug.
> So I un-installed XQuartz, logged out & in. Re-installed XQuartz, logged out & in. Tried again, but this time the system said it 'couldn't use XQuartz because it wasn't compatible with this version of the OS or it needed to be re-installed again'. So, I reinstalled it again, and logged out & in, and now it works like it should!!
Weird... were you trying to install the Leopard version of XQuartz onto SL?
> I'm just wondering what would be the best way to do this if it happens again. Should a user un-install XQuartz first or at all? Install X11 then XQuartz?
On SL and later, the OS provided X11 is completely independent from XQuartz. Also, it sounds like your "wined" applications are completely independent as well (since they have their own server), so I'm not sure how there could be interference.
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