Re: is Xcode 1.1 update the same as Xcode 1.1 install?
Re: is Xcode 1.1 update the same as Xcode 1.1 install?
- Subject: Re: is Xcode 1.1 update the same as Xcode 1.1 install?
- From: Chris Ridd <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:12:29 +0000
On 23/12/03 3:28 am, Denis Stanton <email@hidden> wrote:
> Hi Godfrey
>
> I appreciate you continuing to work this despite being "away from the
> office". I don't have any problems with the upgrade now, but I was one
> of those confused people who wrote to you earlier.
>
> On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, at 12:56 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
>> The model that we've taken with the tools since Mac OS X shipped has
>> been that partial installs, updating just specific components, have
>> always said "Update" in the title where full releases which included
>> updated components always carried the term "Tools" in the title.
>> Perhaps this was too subtle, but it has not been misunderstood before.
>
> Way too subtle. I have not observed this convention before. I
> wouldn't have guessed that "update" was a subset of "tools", the words
While subtleties like this are at some levels elegant/neat, they're clearly
not widely understood either outside of Apple, or inside.
I just looked at what my machine's "Installed Updates" were called, and they
are things like "Security Update yyyy-mm-dd", "Mac OS X Update", "Bluetooth
Software". In the case of things with "update" in the title, there's an
expectation that it will contain everything required to bring an
installation up to date. I would be concerned if there were 10.3.2 CDs that
installed a different system than was achieved by updating 10.3.1. (Ignoring
hardware-specific releases.)
> In my case adding the words "(Includes Update v1.1)" next to the "Tools
> v1.1" would have been enough.
I don't think that's enough :-( I don't instinctively go to the ADC site
(the timing out sessions are annoying, the execrable download speeds from my
default server (Europe) is another, and the uncertainty that I'm getting a
real release rather than an alpha etc is another) so all I had to go on was
software update, and later on the extremely helpful announcements from
Godfrey et al on mailing lists like this one.
I do think renaming things might help. If the update had a label indicating
it only updated part of the developer tools, it would help. (eg "Xcode 1.1
Core Update"). It would also be helpful if the whole of the developer tools
weren't named after one of the applications ;-)
Cheers,
Chris
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