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Re: is Xcode 1.1 update the same as Xcode 1.1 install?
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Re: is Xcode 1.1 update the same as Xcode 1.1 install?


  • Subject: Re: is Xcode 1.1 update the same as Xcode 1.1 install?
  • From: Denis Stanton <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:28:27 +1300

Hi Godfrey

I appreciate you continuing to work this despite being "away from the office". I don't have any problems with the upgrade now, but I was one of those confused people who wrote to you earlier.

On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, at 12:56 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

The model that we've taken with the tools since Mac OS X shipped has been that partial installs, updating just specific components, have always said "Update" in the title where full releases which included updated components always carried the term "Tools" in the title. Perhaps this was too subtle, but it has not been misunderstood before.

Way too subtle. I have not observed this convention before. I wouldn't have guessed that "update" was a subset of "tools", the words have quite different meanings for me. My initial assumption was that Tools referred to some extra programs, NOT including Xcode itself. I think the difference between your meaning and my (mis)understanding comes down to what each of us understood to be the meaning of Tools. I'm inclined to think that Tools are accessories or add-ons.


Question: There were two new downloads with similar names right next to each other on the ADC website, do you consider it unreasonable that a developer would download and read the Read Me files, about 10-20K apiece, for both of them? My own predilection would be to read *all* the read me files when I see several downloads and then choose which ones I wanted to obtain.

We've grown used to life being easier than that. With many Apple products I expect Software Update to do all the thinking for me. From experience many Read Me files contain no information at all, just installation-for-dummies level instructions like "Download the File. Open the Folder. Click on the Install button". It's often the case that if you are savvy enough to be able to read the Read Me then you don't need the instructions it contains.


I'm not saying that your Read Me files are like that, but after you've downloaded, unpacked and scrolled through so many text files that merely state the obvious you tend to loose faith in read Me Files (unless something goes wrong)

Other people behave differently, I see, so I am trying to gauge in what ways to change the way I organize the naming and read me information.

In my case adding the words "(Includes Update v1.1)" next to the "Tools v1.1" would have been enough.


regards

Denis Stanton
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