Re: is Xcode 1.1 update the same as Xcode 1.1 install?
Re: is Xcode 1.1 update the same as Xcode 1.1 install?
- Subject: Re: is Xcode 1.1 update the same as Xcode 1.1 install?
- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:56:45 -0800
Thank you for your comments.
The model that we've taken with the tools since Mac OS X shipped has
been that partial installs, updating just specific components, have
always said "Update" in the title where full releases which included
updated components always carried the term "Tools" in the title.
Perhaps this was too subtle, but it has not been misunderstood before.
Question: There were two new downloads with similar names right next to
each other on the ADC website, do you consider it unreasonable that a
developer would download and read the Read Me files, about 10-20K
apiece, for both of them? My own predilection would be to read *all*
the read me files when I see several downloads and then choose which
ones I wanted to obtain. Other people behave differently, I see, so I
am trying to gauge in what ways to change the way I organize the naming
and read me information.
best,
Godfrey
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On Dec 21, 2003, at 5:07 AM, Mark Douma wrote:
I agree as well!
I too assumed that I was getting a full update as well, as there was
no information whatsoever that would suggest any different. It should
be clearly noted that an update is not the full updater if that's the
case. I just recently joined this list and otherwise I don't think I
would've found this out for months! I regularly check the ADC site,
but I never would have bothered with the "Xcode Tools 1.1 CD", since
I've already installed the update and I therefore have no need for it.
I just wasted an hour or so defragging my Panther partition, which I
did because I figured I had installed all the updates I needed, (OS X
10.3.2, Security Update, Final Cut Pro, iTunes, QuickTime 6.5, Apple
Remote Desktop, Java Advanced Imaging, Java 3D, and CHUD 3.0.2).
From the Xcode Update 1.1 Read Me:
FEATURES
The Xcode 1.1 update provides overall stability and performance
enhancements to the Xcode IDE, as well as improvements to debugging,
workflow, the Xcode build system and Code Sense.
From the Xcode Tools 1.1 Read Me:
FEATURES
The Xcode Tools 1.1 release provides overall stability and
performance enhancements to the Xcode IDE, as well as improvements
to debugging, workflow, the Xcode build system and CodeSense. It
includes a number of revisions and additions not included in the
recent Xcode 1.1 software update; see the What's New section below.
...
WHAT'S NEW IN THIS RELEASE?
Oh, this is just wonderful. You mention in the _full_ version that the
_other_ version is only a _partial_ update! Reading the Xcode Update
1.1 makes no mention or even the slightest suggestion that it's a
partial update. How about mentioning how it compares to the other
updater in _both_ of the updaters?
On Dec 21, 2003, at 7:05 AM, email@hidden wrote:
Message: 13
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 03:33:23 -0800
From: Aaron Hilton <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Is Xcode 1.1 update the same as Xcode 1.1 install
To: xcode-users list <email@hidden>
Aye, I raise my hand here too.
While relatively new to using PB and Xcode, I was automatically
expecting a full update. Therefore, my mind facilitated in magically
glossing over the obvious, that he software update was a partial
update.
I suggest all future "partial updates" be clearly marked directly in
the title.
Example:
"Xcode Tools Essentials - Partial Update"
Your existing detailed description/explanations are perfectly
suitable.
And, thank you for keeping the update releases to a minimum yet
functional size. That is definitely appreciated here.
Cheers,
- Aaron.
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