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  • Subject: dependencies
  • From: Hugh Hoover <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:25:12 -0800

I've been using XCode since the Panther release - I've tamed at least some it it's new idiosyncrasies :)
(or is that - retrained me?)


Anyway - I have a question on dependencies -
my current project has 4 frameworks and a small main app. I expect to install the frameworks into the app bundle at some point, but haven't done that yet.


I have several issues that I haven't figured out yet - here's the first one...

First, dependencies - there's this nice "Direct Dependencies" box under the "General" tab of the framework target inspector, but nothing in it - when I hit the "+", I get a slide-down box with nothing in it, with an "Add" button. I can't type or anything in the box, and hitting "Add" or return just makes the sliding box go away.
Just HOW am I supposed to add (or see?) dependencies? The instructions seem to indicate that frameworks will show up in the slide-down box - but there's nothing.
Currently - I don't have the frameworks "installed" - just symlinks from ~/Library/Frameworks to the build/<xxx>.framework directory - is that an issue?
I"m probably not using the frameworks in the expected manner - I currently add header search paths to the source directories rather than including "<framework>/header.h".
would that have an effect? (I don't really WANT to be including the "standard" way, as this project ports to win32 - although I suppose a carefully crafted source tree would make that work).


And as a general comment - I"m really hoping y'all get XCode working well - there's promise... I use VS.NET frequently - and despite everyone's (justifiable?) bias against the big M$ - it's really a pretty good dev environment. The things that make it most useful for me are the auto completion and browsing functions - they use compiler derived browse info - which has both good and bad points - good because of precision, downside in requiring successful compilation before browse info is available. I tend to write new code there because of the CodeSense stuff and browsing because it helps me with the trivialities of coding - exact function names, etc. >It< breaks down with anything but the simplest templates (and I'm using some really complex templates now - recursive, template templates, etc). Being able to type <namespace>:: and get that list, then <class>:: and get THAT list is really really helpful to me - having it work correctly for complex templates would be great.
The best dev environment I've ever used was Smalltalk (ParcPlace) back in '90. We had a smalltalk to C++ translator that allowed us to develop tweaked Smalltalk (all tweaks were in specialized comments) that would translate directly into the final C++ (no edits after translation). In Smalltalk, we had excellent browsing capability, retention of session state, and unbeatable debug/fix/continue with complete object browsing/editing - then translate to C++, run the now translated unit-test and fix the occasional C++ issue. Very fast. How soon can you get there? (not necessarily with the Smalltalk part - although I wouldn't object !^)


Thanks,
Hugh Hoover
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