Re: command line building - I'm pissed at Apple [10.4]
Re: command line building - I'm pissed at Apple [10.4]
- Subject: Re: command line building - I'm pissed at Apple [10.4]
- From: Andrew Satori <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 08:07:48 -0400
Not to be rude, but get over it. 10.4 has been out for 3.5 days, and
the bulk of the Open Source Projects haven't had time to adapt to
it's changes. Further, the change to GCC4 means that there are
compiler issues to resolve. It's going to take time for the
autotools chain to be properly updated to deal with the issues.
Rather than bitch because your favorite Gnu apps don't build right
out of the tarball, why don't you do something constructive and write
the patches and submit them back to the developers.
Your contention that 'most apps build right away' is completely and
utterly bogus. If you really believe that, go spend a week building
GTK+ 2.x and Gnome2.8 from source on 10.3.x. When you get stalled
out by stupid little issues, retrace your steps. It *CAN* be done,
it's not trivial. It also has issues with GCC4 on Linux too.
Tiger, like prior releases has newer versions of software and
dependancies. That means that the ./configure process that so many F/
OSS projects use is probably making invalid assumptions, and creating
compiler issues.
Now, if you take the time to poke around, you might find that the
problems are definition issues in the .h files. From there you might
start poking around in conf.h and find that there are some things
that are incorrectly ifdef'd for your brand spanking new OS, which
considering the source code, the authors probably don't have or don't
use primarily as the code looks heavily MSVC influenced.
Andy
On May 3, 2005, at 5:40 AM, D. Walsh wrote:
First, please excuse my anger but this XCode 2.0 crap has worn me out.
Does Apple have any Developer Tools that actually work from the
command line in Tiger that will build source code projects without
any problems or headaches or am I foo-bared and stuck with this
XCode 2.0 crap because they have no working alternative?
To many GNU source projects don't build with whatever comes with
XCode 2.0 [10.4] and I'm about at my wits end for something that
works cause it shouldn't be this much of a struggle.
In 10.2 or 10.3 I can download any GNU/GPL source project and built
it without any problems (excluding dependancy issues) but in 10.4
almost nothing builds without major headaches.
An example of what wont build, try ClamAV, any recent version, it
wont built in Tiger using XCode 2.0 cause it fails on zziplib and
any other GNU project using zziplib source also fails.
If there's a magic switch or instructions someone can give me that
can make these projects build I'd be tickled pink.
If you haven't tried building ClamAV then it would be pointless to
offer any suggestions, suggestions and things to try are over, back
seat drivers would be better off waiting for an intelligent person
who has the solution to respond.
Does anyone know how to get it to work?
-- Dale
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