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Re: Suggestion to eliminate confusion in style overrides
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Re: Suggestion to eliminate confusion in style overrides


  • Subject: Re: Suggestion to eliminate confusion in style overrides
  • From: Fritz Anderson <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 22:09:14 -0500

On 9 May 2005, at 9:48 PM, Larry Gerndt wrote:

I can testify that this leads to a lot of newbie confusion. Unless there is good reason why not, I would say that the value displayed should be the true value (the one defined in the overriding style) and should not be editable.

Sweet Lord.

Displaying a control that does not reflect the value in the context displayed, and making its value uneditable (and the true value inaccessible) depending on whether any, some, or all styles, set in another place not immediately visible, unmask the value, is not the way to make things _less_ confusing.

Once you have the concept going of two lists, one overriding the other, you are committed to a certain irreducible amount of complexity. But it seems to me that the simplest way to represent two lists is as... two lists. Not as one list, plus a partial roster of the second list with members of the first interpolated.

What might help is a tooltip to remind people of the underlying concept: "Overridden by the current build style."

And I see that there is exactly that tooltip in place. With the further note that control-clicking on the overridden setting will take you to the overriding setting in the current build style.

I do notice that the tooltip is very slow (sometimes infinitely slow) to appear.

    -- F

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