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Re: XCode Falls Short - for now
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Re: XCode Falls Short - for now


  • Subject: Re: XCode Falls Short - for now
  • From: Laurence Harris <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:18:48 -0500


On Oct 31, 2006, at 11:20 AM, leenoori wrote:

El 31/10/2006, a las 13:52, Andy O'Meara escribió:

Debating Xcode vs $DISCONTINUED_IDE doesn't get anyone anywhere, so there's
no reason to keep harping on this stuff.

Yes, debating on the list

Have you ever attended a real debate? A debate is a contest, with winners and losers. I don't consider these discussions debates because even when they become heated, these discussions don't have winners or losers.


is a waste of everybody's time.

I don't consider it a waste of my time and I've seen other people state that they derive benefit from these kinds of discussions. There will always be threads that can be considered a waste of time to some people. I see very technical, on-topic threads on carbon-dev and even this list that are a waste of my time because they relate to issues that are not relevant to me, but I don't tell people they shouldn't talk about those things. The fact that these discussions almost always involve contributions from multiple participants is pretty clear evidence in my mind that not everyone considers them a waste of time.


The most productive course would be to file enhancement requests for wanted features:

http://bugreporter.apple.com/

Speaking for myself, I find these kinds of threads can help me understand the thinking behind the current approach, plus the pros and cons of what I might want to request in Radar, which often results in what I consider a better request when I *do* file a request. Or I may decide not to file a request once I see things from a different perspective. I would consider it a *bigger* waste of my time to go off on my own submitting my personal wish list for a program with which I am not very familiar.


These discussions, or "debates" as you like to call them, foster an exchange of ideas and perspectives, and I don't consider that a waste of time. Sometimes we even reassess our own positions when explaining them to others.

It's also often appropriate to post a "how do I do this?" question to the list, once you've searched the archives of course. You'll either be told that it's possible and you just didn't know how, or you'll be advised to file a bug report.

Agreed.

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 >Re: XCode Falls Short - for now (From: "Andy O'Meara" <email@hidden>)
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