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Re: XCode Falls Short - for now
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Re: XCode Falls Short - for now


  • Subject: Re: XCode Falls Short - for now
  • From: John Deane <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:20:58 +0000

I would concur. The last thing we want is for the 'not invented here' mind-set to take hold and limit our options for making Xcode better than it is at the moment.

I have never used CodeWarrior, though in frustration with Xcode I did look for it some time ago only to discover that it had been discontinued. I briefly looked at Eclipse (for C++ development) and found it to me fairly good but not ideal either. My main point of reference for other IDEs is VisualStudio (and even VB6). Although they are not perfect I find myself to be so much more productive in those environments than I am in Xcode. For sure, some of this comes from familiarity but I have tried to become familiar with Xcode and sadly made very slow progress.

Cheers

John

On 31 Oct 2006, at 15:06, Laurence Harris wrote:

On Oct 31, 2006, at 7:52 AM, Andy O'Meara wrote:

Debating Xcode vs $DISCONTINUED_IDE doesn't get anyone anywhere, so there's
no reason to keep harping on this stuff.

The point is not to debate which is better as a product, but rather to compare their implementations of specific features. Obviously it's pointless to sit around and wait for CW to make a comeback, but there's no reason we can't hope for and ask for Xcode to adopt a CW-like implementation of a feature if we feel it was done better in CW. It would be silly to act as if CW never existed just because it's discontinued. Copying ideas from other products is a time- honored tradition in software design and development. That said, when the Xcode team can implement something even better, Yahoo!


FWIW, I don't think comparing Xcode to CW is any different than comparing it to Eclipse, VS, or any other IDE, or even other text editors (I think Xcode would benefit from adopting some features from SubEthaEdit, for example). They're all products that may have ideas and features that Xcode might benefit from adopting. (Adopting other people's ideas certainly hasn't bankrupted Microsoft. :-) I for one do not care where the Xcode team gets its ideas. Requests in Radar, emulating CW or VS, or their own creative genius. All I care about is having the best tool possible if I'm going to use it 50+ hours/week to earn my living. So what say we not exclude any possible source of ideas from Xcode debates?

Larry

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