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Re: Expanding "this" kills my application
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Re: Expanding "this" kills my application


  • Subject: Re: Expanding "this" kills my application
  • From: Laurence Harris <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:19:40 -0500


On Dec 6, 2007, at 7:47 PM, Dave Camp wrote:

On Dec 6, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Laurence Harris wrote:

On Dec 6, 2007, at 5:06 PM, Jim Ingham wrote:

I take it the logs for your application don't correspond to these incidents? If they do, of course, I'd love to see them. If not, you can first make 100% sure that gdb isn't going away by running your app in the debugger up to the point where you are about to open this. Then get a terminal window, and do (i386->powerpc is you are on a powerpc system):

[snip]

Okay, I'll give it a try. And thanks for reminding me why I decided to be a Mac user all those years ago.

That was uncalled for. An Apple engineer is actually trying to help you figure out why the debugger isn't working for you. They don't have to do that you know...

Don't lecture me.

Then go to Xcode and open "this". See what happens in the terminal when your app "goes away". You'll either see a crash, or hit the breakpoint at exit or abort. If you don't see anything unusual here, then something is actually causing your app to exit. You might try putting a breakpoint on _exit and abort in your app, and then see if opening "this" triggers either of these breakpoints in you app.

Okay.

Are you guys aware of how painful this is compared to what Mac development should be?

Ah, yes, Codewarrior never had any bugs. Please.

Please, CodeWarrior had an occasional bug, but virtually everything I need to do in Xcode is either awkward at best or doesn't work at worst.


Again, someone is trying to help you get to the bottom of your problem and you just insult them.

It wasn't an insult. Sorry you decided to interpret it that way. I was grumbling, grumbling because I specifically chose the Mac as my platform of choice because I didn't want to deal with command line interfaces.


If nothing else, the ability to debug gdb from gdb to diagnose a problem and potentially get a fix is a neat trick.

It's a neat trick if you can figure out that cryptic stuff and a neat trick I never needed before using Xcode. If you consider that insulting, well, you have every right to interpret it that way.


Larry

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