Re: Can I declare the Xcode 3 discussion open?
Re: Can I declare the Xcode 3 discussion open?
- Subject: Re: Can I declare the Xcode 3 discussion open?
- From: "Kyle Sluder" <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:10:33 +0100
Does anyone know when the official documentation is going to hit ADC
Online? If it's going to be ~6PM PDT, then that would make a
convenient watershed.
--Kyle Sluder
On 10/26/07, Alastair Houghton <email@hidden> wrote:
> On 26 Oct 2007, at 12:56, Alexander von Below wrote:
>
> > Am 26.10.2007 um 13:00 schrieb Nils Holland:
> >
> >> So, this probably applies to this list here as well: The NDA
> >> officially stays in effect until today, 6 pm Pacific time.
> >
> > OK. Let us read the verbatim of the NDA then:
> >
> > Section 6, Confidential Information.
> >
> > "Confidential Information, however, does not include: (a)
> > information that Apple makes generally available to the public;"
> > http://developer.apple.com/membership/pdf/terms.pdf
> >
> > IANAL, but I believe, shipping it to customers counts. Therefore, I
> > see no reason not to talk about it.
>
> Well, IANAL either, but there is the issue of legal jurisdictions.
> Does "the public" mean "the public in whatever legal jurisdiction
> presides over this contract"? I suspect that it probably does. Or
> at least, I'm certain that most courts would view it that way, if
> only out of a sense of local self-importance. (i.e. in the U.K.,
> "the public" in a contract *probably* means "the British public";
> likewise in other countries)
>
> Anyway, the general point is that the NDA cannot any longer be an
> effective restriction, since consumers (or those with retail Leopard
> DVDs) can talk about it, and they could tell us something, and that
> information could then be passed on outside the NDA.
>
> *But* since some of us still don't have copies, and since we can't
> simply forward all questions in an easterly direction until we hit
> someone who does have, the post from Scott Anguish on cocoa-dev does
> make a certain amount of sense.
>
> *I* don't particularly want to see tonnes of messages along the lines
> of "Alastair, please can you answer this because I'm still under the
> NDA?" (replace my name with anyone eastwards of your location). And
> Apple probably doesn't want its launch events ruined by developers
> turning up with developer seeds going "Hey, look at this, it's great"
> a few hours before the actual event.
>
> It'll be better and simpler if people wait.
>
> (You might say it would be better if Apple had officially lifted the
> NDA on Leopard-related matters, but I imagine they didn't do that to
> avoid confusion over what was still covered by NDA and what wasn't.)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Alastair.
>
> --
> http://alastairs-place.net
>
>
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