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Re: Code signing

  • Subject: Re: Code signing
  • From: "Gus Heck" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:00:40 -0400
Apple is doing it's great idea all screwed up trick again... but they've got the only game (like this) in town right now, so we have to put up with it.

They sold hardware instead of software in the 80's and 90's (we all know what that did to their market share)

Now they are trying to sell software (sort of via the app store), so they've made it to about 1995 or 2000, but since then web collaboration and community building has become important... and they're missing that boat again.

All we can do is hope that they figure it out quickly or jump ship when the competitors show up. It's the days of the hammer shattering the movie screen again right now with the iphone, and history is repeating itself (so far).

-Gus

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Joeles Baker <email@hidden> wrote:


2008/7/29 Recent Chaos Software <email@hidden>


However - code signing specific to iPhone development is a part of the iPhone SDK NDA. Non-disclosure (meaning you will not talk about any aspect of it is a contract between you and apple ) to not discuss the development of such applications, or processes involved with application production / development etc.

Plus deployment is also an aspect of development so that is more than likely NDA'ed as well.


I would have posted the "Definition" section of the NDA here, that basically defines, what the term SDK includes,
but unfortunately the NDA is under NDA itself. Otherwise we could discuss if code signing of iPh*** (rule 1 in the iPh*** club: don't talk about the iP***) applications is under NDA, too.

I know this is the wrong place to discuss, but seriously - this damn NDA became absolutely ridiculous, counter-productive and obsolete.
Seriously: The whole scene bursts into laughter about this NDA! ( Instead of many, just one example: http://fuckingnda.com/ )

This damn NDA interferes our work!
File bugs, and annoy WWDR until they kick some executives ass in order to lift it.
This NDA is probably the even bigger fiasco, than the MobileMe launch - where is the NDA status blog, Steve?

I don't even think that the NDA is still active on purpose. There is nothing the NDA could protect.
All those iPh*** hackers out there already blogged about every single aspect of the OS!
It just looks like complete missmanagement and because WWDR can't decide themselves (and no executive told otherwise so far) it's still in place.


Probably WWDR is as much annoyed as we are - they have to stand all those angry dev's every day.
 

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