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Re: Run iPhone emulator without development project?
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Re: Run iPhone emulator without development project?


  • Subject: Re: Run iPhone emulator without development project?
  • From: jimmy <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:15:08 +0930

Chris Espinosa wrote:

On Jul 16, 2009, at 11:20 PM, jimmy wrote:

c) There's a perfectly good iPhone development forum at Developer Forums Beta: Developer Tools that has answers to these and other iPhone questions.

The iphone web forum is just plain aweful. Having to mess about logging in to the portal etc and navigate to the forum, painful.


I wonder why we can't have an email list for the iPhone developers? NDA concerns i suppose? It's silly.

Developers have been begging for places in which to discuss prerelease products under NDA for years. That place now exists, both for the iPhone and for Mac OS X.


It's got far superior searchability than the list.

It has a far larger community than any of our old-fashioned mailing lists.

You can post screen shots and code samples. When helping people with Xcode issues I find it far easier to just paste a picture of what they need to fix, or ask for a screen shot of their build result.

Forums scale much better than mailing lists, and links and cross-references to other threads and answers are much clearer. Endless quotation waterfalls are much less common.

If there are things you find awful, please file bugs; the forums are still in Beta, but there are many things that make them already superior to lists.apple.com, and you are going to see more, not fewer, web-based developer community activities from Apple.

And if you don't like Apple's forums, for questions such as these that are not under NDA, the StackOverflow forums are much better implemented (except for the kinda weird OpenID login), but have far fewer knowledgable iPhone developers. In the end, if you have iPhone questions, you should go to where the people with iPhone answers are, and at this point, it's the iPhone Forums.

Chris

You make some very good points. Some of which i had not considered.

When i said awful i suppose i was being a little melodramatic. I just find the whole logging in to check for responses etc. quite annoying. Also, the web forum can be very slow at times, which has pretty well lead me to abandon it.

However, as you've stated, that's what's on offer, so really i have little choice other than to give it another go to get access to a decent sized developer community. Admittedly, I'm used to mail lists and i do prefer them over web forums. Maybe i need to use the web forums more to appreciate the benefits.

TBH i joined this list, cocoa-dev and obj-c to make it easier to pick up bits and pieces about iphone dev and using XCode in general (this has been very good so far). The nice thing about the lists is the info comes to me and i can browse through it at leisure very quickly.

cheers,
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 >Run iPhone emulator without development project? (From: Peter Loron <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Run iPhone emulator without development project? (From: Chris Espinosa <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Run iPhone emulator without development project? (From: jimmy <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Run iPhone emulator without development project? (From: Chris Espinosa <email@hidden>)

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