Re: Writing Cocoa apps w/o using Interface Builder
Re: Writing Cocoa apps w/o using Interface Builder
- Subject: Re: Writing Cocoa apps w/o using Interface Builder
- From: Simon Wilson <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 22:29:31 +0200
Johnathan,
> Yeah IB definitely feels like a PoS right now.
Being new to Xcode and Interface Builder and having not taken the time
to study and understand the concepts (which are very probably
different than those expounded by the tools you've used in the past)
does not qualify you to describe IB as a "piece of shit".
I understand learning something new can be frustrating and some
aspects of IB are certainly somewhat opaque. But any developer with a
modicum of experience developing UIs knows how tedious and error-prone
widget layout is when done from code and would avoid it like the plague.
Assuming you have experience developing apps on other platforms prior
to your current experience on the Mac/iPhone, I recommend you take a
second or two to recall the process you went through when you first
started using Eclipse, Visual Studio or wherever you're coming from.
Surely it took a significant investment of time to get up to speed
with those tools as well?
I've also spent many years using IDEs other than Xcode and by
comparison I can state with some confidence that Interface Builder is
a very good tool for UI design which compares very favorably with the
others I mentioned above.
Simon
On May 29, 2009, at 19:21 PM, Jonathan Mast wrote:
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From: Jonathan Mast <email@hidden>
Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: Writing Cocoa apps w/o using Interface Builder
To: Chris Williams <email@hidden>
Thanks Jiri for pointing me to iPhone tutorial, thats what I'm trying
to develop.
Yeah IB definitely feels like a PoS right now. The annoying thing is
that I downloaded a simple tutorial that is basically a launcher to a
website, i plugged in my URL and it worked fine. So i go to create a
new project that will be just like the alter tutorial, except with a
different name. Copy and paste the code, renaming appropriately, and
creating the XIBs with the right objects, and so on. But it will not
work! It compiles fine but i get the White Screen of Oblivion on the
iPhone Simulator. It must be a missing connection in IB, but I just
can't figure what is not connecting. Hence my desire to bypass IB all
together.
I did the little sample project described in the iPhone Tutorial, and
tried some adjustments to my project based on what i learned, but
still dice.
Furthermore, I can't even get Xcode to associate the icon i specified
in info.plist with the app.
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Chris Williams <email@hidden>
wrote:
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt :)
I hated IB at the start. Felt precisely as you do. Made a couple of
small apps without it. Really cumbersome.
So I ground through several more tutorials. Got the hang of IB. No
longer hate it. Just tolerate it.
HTH
From: Jonathan Mast <email@hidden>
Subject: Writing Cocoa apps w/o using Interface Builder
Is it possible to write Cocoa applications without having to use
Interface Builder? I find IB to be rather unintuitive and would like
to create GUI programs programmatically. Is this possible? All the
tutorials I see involve using IB.
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