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Re: [LAST from RZ] Why XCODE do not have TABs for files as inVisual C++ or Safarior ...
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Re: [LAST from RZ] Why XCODE do not have TABs for files as inVisual C++ or Safarior ...


  • Subject: Re: [LAST from RZ] Why XCODE do not have TABs for files as inVisual C++ or Safarior ...
  • From: Izidor Jerebic <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:33:31 +0200


On 14.4.2010, at 0:27, Chris Espinosa wrote:

On Apr 13, 2010, at 3:11 PM, Paul Sanders wrote:

I have found this entire thread very disappointing.  Here we have someone who suggests what to me and I suspect many others is an eminently sensible addition to Xcode and, when pressed, argues his case with intelligence, wit, passion and no little style.  But the responses he gets are largely ill-informed, unhelpful and negative.  Surely we can do better than this.  But it seems there is more sport in shooting someone down who dares to be different than entering into any kind of useful dialog on an issue like this.  And not everything Windows does is bad.
 
Given what has gone on here, I can sympathise with Fritz.  Maybe we should just all stick to the basics.

For the record, the desire to have tabbed editing in Xcode is longstanding, well-understood, and not a good fit for the current Xcode architecture, but we are well aware of the desire for tabs and their usefulness for developers and hope to address it in a forthcoming release.

The functional thing to do is file an enhancement request, which gets linked to previous requests for similar functionality, and we do indeed pay attention to the number and persistence of requests.  We don't pay much attention to debates among developers about personal coding style, because such debates rarely persuade others from their strongly-held opinions ;-)

As a member of silent majority who is quite pleased with Xcode, I would like to momentarily break the silence by expressing support for Xcode team members who keep the product well designed in spite of onslaught of kitchen-sink requests from people who think design means a long list of features and that bigger is better.

As for tabs specifically, they are a really bad thing invented because of a basic design flaw in MS Windows GUI. For example, NeXTSTEP had no tabs, 20 years ago, but I could have 50 files open at the same time and see full filenames and paths and access each of them via single click, because of tear-off Window menu. Hailing tabs as a great achievement is a sign of tunnel vision and closed mind. So much for "thinking different".

Again, I hope the design thinking about Xcode will prevail as in all other Apple products. I really like using well-designed computer products.

izidor

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