Re: Xc4 UI
Re: Xc4 UI
- Subject: Re: Xc4 UI
- From: Dave <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:06:36 +0000
On 15 Mar 2011, at 17:46, WT wrote:
On Mar 15, 2011, at 2:22 PM, Jean-Daniel Dupas wrote:
Le 15 mars 2011 à 18:01, Ross Carter a écrit :
On Mar 14, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Matt Neuburg wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:30:53 +0100, Jean-Daniel Dupas
<email@hidden> said:
“The thing is that I really don't believe that even if I got
really good at the one giant window way of working say to the
level I am now with multiple windows that I'd work any faster”
I'm not grasping the difficulty here. In Xcode 4 you *can* open
code files in separate windows, and you can even open multiple
instantiations of the project window (navigator and all); so
what's the problem? I'm not using "one giant window" at all
(except when I want to). m.
One problem is, if you do that, then you have to be careful of
the sequence in which you close the windows.
I think it is fairly typical for developers to have one main
window configured to appear where and how they like, and open
other, smaller windows for particular purposes. But Xcode 4 can
remember only one window configuration, and that is the
configuration of the last open window for a project. So if you
create a new window, resize it, move it, hide navigators, etc.,
and then close the first window before the you close the second
window, then the next time you open the project the second
window's settings will be restored.
This is especially irritating when the restored window is a named
tab. If you do not take care, you will change the layout to get
something useful (file explorer, toolbar, …) and next time your
named tab should be open (when building or starting a debug
session), Xcode will bring front your new project window you will
have to relayout it one more time to match your previous settings.
This is not a big issue, but each time I relayout a window, I have
the impression I'm losing time to do thing I had never done in
Xcode 3.
And at the end of the day, all the time passed fighting with the
window layout make me fill I'm less productive with Xcode 4.
-- Jean-Daniel
The answer is clear for us developers, then, to request Apple
either to (re)introduce the option of having multiple windows, a la
XCode 3, or to save more than one window configuration. Since Apple
has made it a big deal that XCode 4 does everything in one window,
I don't think they'll go back to what we were used to in XCode 3,
so the idea of saving multiple window configurations seems to me to
be a good compromise.
Just saving/restoring the window positions correctly would be a step
in the right direction, but it would still be hard to use. To make it
more resemble the XCode 3 experience, you'd have to be able to make
the giant project window small enough (currently you can't), so
they'd have to allow that too, and if they did that then the giant
window wouldn't be any more!
One thing I thought that I will try out when I get around to re-
installing XCode 4 on another machine is to move the giant project
window to the right of the screen so that everything apart from the
file list (on the left of the window) was offscreen. The other panes
would change as you selected files etc. but you wouldn't be able to
see them so it wouldn't matter and the window would then be small
enough.
Cheers
Dave
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