Re: C++ file template without header?!? -> С++ is not respected
Re: C++ file template without header?!? -> С++ is not respected
- Subject: Re: C++ file template without header?!? -> С++ is not respected
- From: Jean-Daniel Dupas <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:13:07 +0200
Le 3 sept. 2011 à 13:12, Ruslan Zasukhin a écrit :
> On 9/3/11 1:12 PM, "Thomas Davie" <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>>> And both pay less attention to C++ mother/father of both.
>>
>> C++ is not the mother or father of either of these languages.
>>
>> ObjC comes from C, and Smalltalk; C# comes vaguely from java which was
>> specifically designed not to be low level like C++.
>
> Formally yes. Although then why not J# :)
>
> MS did target C++ developers.
> And really tons of C++ developers have become C# developers.
>
>
>>> As for me I think this is not right decision.
>>>
>>> ObjC works only on MAC.
>>
>> Incorrect, Obj-C can be compiled on pretty much any platform – hell, apple
>> even contributes the vast bulk of the code to a BSDed compiler front end for
>> it that works on many many platforms. Apple's foundation/app kit
>> implementations are mac only, but there's other open implementations of them
>> too (see GNUstep and Cocotron for example).
>>
>>> C# works mainly only on win ...
>>
>> Incorrect, C# works on lots of platforms, see Mono.
>
> Yes I know of course. But
> this is not the same - language itself and frameworks.
> You cannot compile your OS X app to win,
> and reverse for NET.
>
>> Possibly, but why is that apple or MS's concern?
>
> Well, they both provide/support C++ ... yet
>
> In fact MS cannot be blamed so strong.
> Visual 2010 have add many nice features that for years was only in CW and
> XCODE.
>
> But XCODE 4.x have start DROP features ... Oops.
>
That's totally unfair. Xcode it the first Apple IDE that have a decent C++ indexation and autocompletion.
And Apple works really hard to improve it (see the clang project).
While there is a lots of reasons to dislike Xcode 4, C++ support is not one of them.
-- Jean-Daniel
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