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Re: Xcode - AN APPLE OPPORTUNITY!
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Re: Xcode - AN APPLE OPPORTUNITY!


  • Subject: Re: Xcode - AN APPLE OPPORTUNITY!
  • From: Jean-Denis MUYS <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:08:12 +0000
  • Thread-topic: Xcode - AN APPLE OPPORTUNITY!

I used to be a MacApp expert, but seriously, the link with C++ is thin at best. What do you suggest anyway? Do you suggest to provide a pure C++ set of headers for Cocoa, whereby C++ would become a first-class Cocoa programming language? This will not happen. Contrary to MacApp, Cocoa relies on an object model that is very different from C++'s object model. Moreover, the only benefit of such a feature would be to relieve the programmer from learning Objective-C. I have very little sympathy for such a benefit. Learning a new language for a decent engineer is a matter of a few days. The downside would be more cruft, more baggage to maintain, more bugs. Apple's development tools have far more pressing issues to resolve than offering a path for developers who don't want to learn Objective-C. I'd rather see Apple invest in making what we have more robust than adding more complexity for limited benefits. After all, the Xcode 4 text editor *still* doesn't handle pasting of a text selection correctly, despite filed bugs. When something as basic as pasting a text selection is broken in an IDE, feature creep is the last thing you want.

Jean-Denis


On 7 mars 2012, at 11:08, Mattsson Ola wrote:

> Heard of MacApp, anyone? C++ as a proper alternative would be sweet, at lease proper support for naming sourcefiles .mm
> I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
> C++ers of the world unite :-)
>
> OlaM
>
>> Yeah, did we lose the automagic class diagram stuff in going to Xcode 4?
>> On Mar 6, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Sensei wrote:
>>> On 3/2/12 7:48pm, Brian Lambert wrote:
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>> How about thread where we talk about the opportunities Apple has to
>>>> improve Xcode 4.  A positive thread to close out the coding week.
>>>
>>> My wish is a better support for C++ (class diagrams, class design, refactoring...). Make C++ a first-class language, not a second class citizen...
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>
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