On Mar 12, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Peter Teeson wrote: On 2012-03-12, at 1:55 PM, Alex Zavatone wrote: From my testing, if I had 8 GB of RAM free, closed a TextEdit doc and then clicked in the Finder, the TextEdit app would quit. Of course, it was still running, but there was no GUI that I could nav to to open a doc. It's functionality changes and issues like this that are completely counterproductive.
Your statement indicates a lack of understanding that is awesome and speaks volumes as to why you have difficulties. TextEdit did not Quit. It was made pendant at the time that you clicked in the finder.
Pendant?
Look. Closing the last document and clicking on the Finder quits TextEdit in Lion. Matt and Siracusa have mentioned this rather clearly. Well, it quits the GUI, but the app is still running.
So, the app is still running but its GUI isn't. That's a insanely stupid approach when there is 8 GB of RAM free.
Try option tabbing back. The app's GUI is no longer available and doesn't appear. If you look in the Process Monitor, the app is still running, but you have to relaunch it to get to the GUI.
And that's part of my workflow. I'll close documents, keep the app open and tab back to it and select files form the Recently Used files or from the Open menu.
Why?
Because Apple's let us do that for over a decade.
Auto quitting of an app's GUI while you keep the app running in memory when there is 8 GB of RAM free is insanely stupid. It is thinking different, that's for sure.
Really Peter, it appears that you haven't been using a Mac for a long time and that speaks volumes as well. I've been using these things since 1985.
The HUI docs even say this. It appears that you missed that as well.
Apps should support automatic termination so that the user never has to quit them. Automatic termination means that when the user closes an app’s windows, the app appears to quit but actually just moves to the background quietly.
Yeah, well, its GUI is disabled and you can't command tab back to the app unless this has changed since 10.7.2.
Apple's HUI docs say that "sudden and unexpected quitting of applications enhance the user experience". I don't know what planet the new team is from (microsoft), but for those of us who have spent the past 25 years using a Mac, this is just about the stupidest thing ever.
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