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Re: Will we ever be able to refactor C++?
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Re: Will we ever be able to refactor C++?


  • Subject: Re: Will we ever be able to refactor C++?
  • From: Jens Alfke <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 12:50:46 -0800


On Jan 25, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Jeffrey Walton <email@hidden> wrote:

I gave you one example with Apple and GDB. GDB is basically unusable
on current Mac OS X. I understand Apple has basically abandoned GNU
gear. The last major contribution was circa 2001. However, GNU did not
change licensing until 2007. Patches would have been nice through 2007
so other's did not have to try and hack in the support.

Apple was only using GPL software with gritted teeth because there wasn’t an alternative; and a big part of the reason for developing LLVM and Clang was to be able to abandon GCC and GDB. (It’s hard to put really good language integration into your IDE when you can’t link any parts of the compiler or debugger into the IDE but can only use them at arms length as subprocesses.)

In other words, don’t use GPL’d projects as examples of Apple’s attitude toward open source; they’re exceptional cases.

(I don’t mean this as a flame of the GPL; it just happens not to fit with Apple’s development practices or business model.)

—Jens
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 >Will we ever be able to refactor C++? (From: Rick Mann <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Will we ever be able to refactor C++? (From: Tom Davie <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Will we ever be able to refactor C++? (From: Jeffrey Walton <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Will we ever be able to refactor C++? (From: Marshall Clow <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Will we ever be able to refactor C++? (From: Jeffrey Walton <email@hidden>)

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