Re: Super Newbie
Re: Super Newbie
- Subject: Re: Super Newbie
- From: Dave Rosborough <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:26:47 -0800
A few comments:
1. If you're interested in books on Cocoa, search the list archives
(
http://cocoa.mamasam.com/) for "Cocoa AND book" or something like
that. There have been some good threads in the past year on good books
for Cocoa. The only problem is that, to my knowledge at least, there
are no books released that include the latest version of the Cocoa
framework in Panther (OS X 10.3). Personally, I have used the books
from O'Reilly (www.oreilly.com) called "Learning Cocoa" and "Building
Cocoa Applications", and found them acceptable if a little weak in some
areas.
2. Cocoa and Carbon are frameworks, while Objective C and Java are
languages. Carbon applications are generally written in C++, while
Cocoa applications can be written in either Objective C or Java. Most
developers here use Objective C, for various reasons. For a more
detailed diatribe, search the list archives at mamasam for "Objective C
and Java" or something.
3. While it is true that Carbon was designed as a nice migration path
for OS 9 developers' existing applications, there are a number of
features of Mac OS X that can only be got at through Carbon. My
experience has generally been that when I say "hmm... can't find any
classes in Cocoa that do ...", it's time to dig through the Carbon API
because it's probably in there somewhere. Fortunately, a Cocoa
application can make Carbon calls, since they're just C functions and
Objective C is a superset of C. So while a Cocoa programmer may spend
most of his time in the Cocoa framework, every now and then you'll
probably need to make a Carbon call in one of your Cocoa classes.
4. Applescript is definitely slower. I've also found it extremely
frustrating when trying to do anything complex. However, some people
really like it and for some straightforward apps, it is a good choice
(for example, writing GUI's for shell commands seems to frequently be
done using Applescript Studio).
5. Check out Alastair Houghton's FAQ
(
http://www.alastairs-place.net/blog/blog/CocoaDev-faq.txt). It's
excellent, and it has answers to lots of typical "newbie" questions.
TTYL
DaveR
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