Re: Cocoa/Windows parallel dvlpmt
Re: Cocoa/Windows parallel dvlpmt
- Subject: Re: Cocoa/Windows parallel dvlpmt
- From: Finlay Dobbie <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:07:41 +0000
On 4 Feb 2004, at 08:27, Philip Mvtteli wrote:
Is it available as a single zip file that can be downloaded and
installed by double-clicking a set-up file,
Can you do this with all software, that runs on MOSX? You usually load
it down, start it with the installer, have eventually to give some
configuration parameters...
You are obviously missing one of the key usability features of Mac OS
X. The recommended application installation method is drag and drop.
Installers are only OK if they're technically required, which is
rarely. Even so, I have never seen an installer that requires me to
give "some configuration parameters". I had a quick poke at installing
GNUstep, and it was endless messing with paths and and compiling things
from source. Sure, this might be fine for the Linux/BSD hackers that
use it in its current state, but that's not going to be good enough for
end-users, is it?
You've already stated that AppKit support is somewhat dodgy on Windows.
What good is a desktop application without a GUI? Seeing as we're all
developing for Mac OS X on this list, which is first and foremost a
desktop operating system, you're going to want a GUI. If you want to
port your GUI application from Mac OS X to another platform, you're
still going to want a GUI. You're also going to want a GUI that takes
advantage of that platform's look and feel to supply your users with
the best experience possible.
GNUstep doesn't supply a native L&F on Win32. There isn't really such a
thing on Linux, all the different competing GUI frameworks behave
slightly differently - and in case you hadn't noticed, most people
regard this as one of the major stumbling blocks on getting Linux
accepted on the desktop.
That's what I said: You just don't want to do something yourself. You
want a more than perfect solution and not pay one cent, forgetting,
that what you spend in time and resources for your home brewed
interface layer is costing you probably a lot more over the whole
software life-cycle, than completing GS for your needs.
No, people just want the best solution that fits their needs. Nobody's
advocating writing a home-brewed interface layer, just leveraging the
stable, mature frameworks native to the platform in question.
I have yet to see a popular GNUstep application on Windows. You know,
one that random joes can either buy in a box or download and start
using straight away. In fact, I have yet to see a particularly popular
application written in a cross-platform framework of any kind. Am I
missing something?
-- Finlay
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