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RE: SWOP v2 vs GRACoL's SWOP profiles [was: SWOP C3 and C5 Profiles?]
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RE: SWOP v2 vs GRACoL's SWOP profiles [was: SWOP C3 and C5 Profiles?]


  • Subject: RE: SWOP v2 vs GRACoL's SWOP profiles [was: SWOP C3 and C5 Profiles?]
  • From: Roger <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:58:02 -0500

Great news, Mike!!

Looking forward to it with excitement,

Roger

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Marco Ugolini [mailto:email@hidden]
> Envoyé : 22 février 2009 16:07
> À : Terry Wyse; Roger Breton
> Cc : ColorSync Users Mailing List
> Objet : SWOP v2 vs GRACoL's SWOP profiles [was: SWOP C3 and C5
> Profiles?]
>
> In a message dated 2/21/09 6:07 PM, Terry Wyse wrote:
>
> > On Feb 21, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Roger wrote:
> >
> >> Jim,
> >>
> >> "Perfect" is going to be hard to come by.
> >>
> >> One question, why bother "converting": why not go straight to
> >> "assign" the
> >> new C3 and C5 profiles to new documents? In EFI, just convert from
> >> C3 or C5
> >> to your printer's profile.
> >>
> >> With C3 and C5 profiles shipping with CS4, I think it's high time
> >> for people
> >> to give up SWOPv2.
> >
> >
> > Can I get an "AMEN!" on that one? It's almost as if people don't
> > realize that SWOPv2 is officially out-moded and should be replaced
> > with SWOP C3/C5. Time to move on!
>
> Dear Terry and Roger,
>
> I would join your enthusiasm wholeheartedly if it were not for the fact
> that
> the press conditions assumed by GRACoL's SWOP profiles
> (SWOP2006_Coated3v2
> and SWOP2006_Coated5v2, which are referred to here as "C3" and "C5")
> are
> currently not being met by what is probably a sizable majority of print
> providers. I have seen a number of them starting to advertise that they
> "use
> GRACoL," but those are still few and in between -- and I also question
> how
> much of that claim is more marketing than actually a reflection of how
> closely they are really matching actual GRACoL print conditions.
>
> Also, I would like to underscore what may seem obvious to some of us,
> but
> may be worth reminding -- namely that US Web Coated (SWOP) v2 and
> GRACoL's
> SWOP profiles do *not* produce the exactly same visual results when
> using
> the same set of CMYK numbers, though SWOP2006_Coated5v2 comes close.
>
> To illustrate that point, see 2 screenshots from CMYK color lists in
> ColorThink Pro at these URLs:
>
> US Web Coated (SWOP) v2 compared to SWOP2006_Coated3v2:
> <http://tinyurl.com/awkndq>
>
> US Web Coated (SWOP) v2 compared to SWOP2006_Coated5v2:
> <http://tinyurl.com/bxf23t>
>
> Each screenshot shows the same list of CMYK color numbers with 2
> different
> profiles assigned to it: US Web Coated (SWOP) v2 is assigned to the
> color
> list on the left, whereas SWOP2006_Coated3v2 or SWOP2006_Coated5v2 is
> assigned to the one on the right. The color differences are expressed
> in
> units of DeltaE 2000, using the Absolute Colorimetric rendering intent.
>
> Marco Ugolini
>


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