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Re: Push for AppleScript in OS X
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Re: Push for AppleScript in OS X


  • Subject: Re: Push for AppleScript in OS X
  • From: "Ray Barber" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 19:19:36 -0600

Couldn't of said it better myself ...

kudos to that! :)

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>From: email@hidden
>To: email@hidden
>Subject: Re: Push for AppleScript in OS X
>Date: Fri, Feb 2, 2001, 7:00 PM
>

>>> I think it would be in our best interests if everyone sent their desire
> to
>>> have AppleScript in OS X.
>>
>> The good news is that you're about one year too late, ).
>
>>>Mark<<This issue occupied much of our time during a panel discussion I
> was
> involved with at Macworld.
>
> It's funny, Mark, the first time we met was at Apple Headquarters
> discussing the importance AppleScript in Rhapsody. At that same visit Cal
> arranged for presentations to the board of directors from a small group of
> Apple customers who depend on AppleScript.
>
> Here it is how many years later and we're still worried about basically the
> same thing!
>
>>>>>>The issue at hand is actually quite serious. While its true that the
> AppleScript language its self is well positioned in MacOS X, scriptability
> in MacOS X as a whole is in a terrible state.
>
> Personally I feel that judgement is a bit hasty and harsh. First,
> AppleScript thrives in the Classic environment and an appleScript running
> in Classic can interact with OS X applications.
>
> Second, Apple is doing pretty much what they've said all along (or at least
> for as long as they've been saying things publicly and officially) and that
> is that AppleScript will be a key technology in Mac OS X but that it will
> be a slow start.
>
> Just how slow is where my only concern lies.
>
> I feel certain it will progress in OS X faster than it did in the classic
> OS over the years. But even if it moves slowly, we still maintain much of
> the functionality through classic scripting.
>
>
>>>>During Macworld it became very clear that with the initial release of
> MacOS X we are not going to enjoy anywhere near the level of scriptability
> in the core OS (Desktop, Dock, Preferences, Networking, Printing) that we
> enjoy today with MacOS 9.
>
> Again, that's pretty much what we've been expecting all along.
>
> Right now Apple has a terrific AppleScript team. They're focus has been on
> OS 9.1. I believe the plan is to move that team to OS X at the appropriate
> time. Based on what I've heard from people inside of apple and out I
> believe we're much better off with an experienced AppleScript "A" team who
> know the technology and the system software rather than two teams working
> on AppleScript independently.
>
> Time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening all at once.
>
>>>>Additionally, all of Apple's recent consumer applications (iTumes,
> iMovie,Final Cut Pro, etc.) are *not* scriptable. I see this as a very bad
> precedent.
>
> Have you seen the preview version of QuickTime? That would be a good
> precedent. Apple has been pretty consistent in their development of new
> technology and applications and appleScript. Basically the technology
> evolves in secrecy, scant attention is paid to AppleScript until it is
> released and then after a time, AppleScript is implemented in stages.
>
> Considering that iTunes is a modified version of another scriptable app, I
> wouldn't be surprised if it's not the first to become scirptable. (Heck, I
> haven't tried this but I wouldn't be surprised i you couldn't just paste
> the AETE from its predecesor into it and have a scriptable app).
>
>>>>>So, to conclude, its not the language that's at risk, but support for
> scripting in the OS that's the problem.
>
> Well, first, the language is always at risk. Particularly when you have
> OSAX developers wanting to clutter up the namespace with hideous commands
> like "Akua copy" or "MT this" or "SMIL That" yuk, yuk, yuk!
>
> While I agree we should do our utmost to ensure that Apple provide the most
> support for scripting possible, we should also recognize what they've done
> and how far they've gone so far to make the transition as smooth as
> possible for all of us.
>
> This is not the time to panic.
>
>
>>>>>If scripting in MacOS X matters to you or your organization, you must
> make this clear in a respectful way to Apple. If we are not making our
> needs clear to Apple, they may choose not to do this work in favor of some
> other feature enhancement.
>
> I certainly agree with that!
>
> HTH,
>
> ES
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