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Re: What's the biggest barrier to wider AS adoption?
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Re: What's the biggest barrier to wider AS adoption?


  • Subject: Re: What's the biggest barrier to wider AS adoption?
  • From: Paul Berkowitz <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:41:59 -0700

This is a very good post, Ken. Well said.

--
Paul Berkowitz

> From: email@hidden
> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 19:44:12 EDT
> To: email@hidden, email@hidden
> Subject: RE: What's the biggest barrier to wider AS adoption?
>
>> What I'm wondering is, AppleScript is really cool, and it seems like
>> it's not nearly as widely used as it could be. Why do you think that
>> is?
>
> Well, here's my 2 cents:
>
> ("People" is being defined as the general user--the vast majority of Mac
> users. That is, not "too" savvy at the abstract, but somewhat competent with
> the apps that are used day to day. Probably understands how to use the
> Finder's 'folders'. Probabaly only uses the menus instead of key shortcuts.
> In other words, not a power user. Just a user.)
>
> People just don't want to write scripts and most couldn't if they had to.
> I've created many scripts for the various places that I have worked. Compared
> to most of the stuff we see here on the list, my scripts are not terribly
> complicated. For example, my latest simply asks the user a few questions so
> it can construct an appropriate search string, then searches a text file for
> that string and displays the resulting look-up value. Simple.
>
> Yet the people I work with are amazed at the magic I've created. They
> wouldn't know where to start if they were forced to try and write that on
> their own. If they did try they wouldn't have the patience to follow-through.
> If they got that far, well, they wouldn't. They'd never even crack open the
> first PDF doc. Way over their heads, simple as it may be. But...
>
> They love to use the tools that I've built for them and are constantly
> suggesting new ones for me to write, completely oblivious to whether it's a
> difficult or easy suggestion (fair enough). So people do like to use the
> RESULTS that AS can offer, but have no interest in generating their own tools.
>
>> From their perspective, an AppleScript is just more software. They don't even
> understand the distinction between programming and scripting. In fact, most
> people I've encountered who use Macs (I'm in graphics/prepress, so I've met a
> lot of supposed sophisticated Mac users) have 'heard' of AppleScript, but
> don't know what it is.
>
> When you get right down to it, scripting on any significant level is (at
> least) somewhat complicated and you can only dumb it down just so much before
> it loses functionality. For example, recordability of an app is great and can
> allow a total non-scripter to rearrange items on his desktop with AS. But it
> will never generate an if-then loop for you. How far can you really go with
> that?
>
> At the risk of babbling all night, I'll just stop here!
>
> Ken Fleisher
> email@hidden
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