Re: [rant] Upgrade to 9.2, any advice?
Re: [rant] Upgrade to 9.2, any advice?
- Subject: Re: [rant] Upgrade to 9.2, any advice?
- From: Timothy Bates <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:29:13 +1100
On 16/1/02 5:45 AM, "David Groover" <email@hidden> wrote:
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Call it intuition, but, I think that Apple is doing away with
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AppleScripting.
Wrong: more AS devt resources are committed now than at any time in the
last decade.
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From the numerous and obviously professional folks who repeatedly post here
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about broken versions in the latest AS and Smile versions, it seems obvious
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that Apple is not taking AppleScript very seriously.
Nope, they have 1000 engineers on X and are building forwards on so many
fronts simultaneously that no one could hope to keep everything under
control. I do think that they could profit from setting up a beta testers
list, but other than that, I am pretty understanding of what is going on. I
love knowing that AS is rolling forward, gaining momentum, being developed
like I need it to be.
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I keep seeing more and more cool programs with the label "Made with Real
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Basic". Even Nisus E-mail is made with RB. While I haven't looked into it, I
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see that it always performs flawlessly when I have ever tried a program in
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RB, freeware or commercial.
RB and AS are different fish. RB is is visual development environment for
(IMHO) a nasty dot-syntax language. AS is an open scripting environment for
the rest of us. Because of some inspired designers, Apple got lucky and has
the best imaginable syntax for a memorable object oriented code workshop.
On the other hand, I predict that AStudio will be a flop (in comparison with
the incomparable success of HyperCard, for which AStudio is supposed to
substitute). This is only the case because Project Builder (fine for regular
app devt) requires users to connect code to objects, whereas HyperCard
allowed users to embed code "inside" objects. No functional difference, but
BIG intuitive usability difference. Interface builder is pretty good, so If
Apple Develop a new IDE for AStudio based on a modified IB, then it will
thrive. AS projects don't need all the complexity that Project Builder
provides.
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Even Macworld's recent trial stuff CD had RB on it. And RB will let you
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write scripts that will also work in Windows, if I heard right. And that is
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a box that Apple may be quietly trying to climb out of. Of course, if it
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does, we AS folks will scream and pitch a fit for a while. But that idea is
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what has been sitting with me. And as time goes by, I can see no reason for
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abandoning it.
RB has none of the access to application control that AS has. It can do
this, but only by calling AS.
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Or maybe, in the back room arm twisting sessions that Apple must have been
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going through to get developers to hurry up and deliver system 10 friendly
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apps, Apple has already conceded that AS is not what new (Cocoa) developers
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need to be interested in supporting?
Absolutely wrong, IMHO.
AppleScript is on a wave like never before.
Tim