Re: Cocoa Loco
Re: Cocoa Loco
- Subject: Re: Cocoa Loco
- From: John Delacour <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:25:20 +0000
- Mac-eudora-version: 6.0a8
At 9:27 pm -0800 2/3/03, Christopher Nebel wrote:
d. Filing bugs is a good way to be constructive.
What I object to in all this is you (a) slandering the Cocoa team
and (b) refusing to do anything other than gripe on a public mailing
list.
Perhaps you would like to rephrase that. What I have done on public
Applescript mailing lists for over seven years is mainly inform and
educate, and though I seek no credit for it, I can assure you that
anyone who has been around for a while has learned a lot about
AppleScript from me -- a hell of a lot more than they've learned from
anyone at Apple. If you look at informative and educative postings
to this list concerning the implementation of Applescript in any week
that I'm around, you'll find a good proportion of them come from me,
and that has been the case for years.
Filing bugs is a damn waste of time if you've got programmers there
who simply cannot ever have tested the scriptability of their
applications in any serious way and when these applications remain
unmodified for months if not years on end. Don't give me the PR and
the hurt pride. It takes hours to get a good bug report together and
we're not paid for it.
Now I ask you to go back ten years and download 132K of Scriptable
Text Editor from <
http://www.bd8.com/scripting/downloads/> and run
the script below. That is Applescript and that is how Applescript
has been implemented for years.
If it doesn't work in TextEdit, it's got nothing to do with cocoa
(that's a red herring) but is simply that your people are not doing
their job properly. Look at BBEdit, Tex-Edit Plus, Style, whatever
you like. They implement Applescript by and large in the good old
way.
Take a large gulp and do it, man. See what was possible ten years
ago and which is made impossible by your people now. Then YOU go and
file the bug report.
tell application "Scriptable Text Editor"
close the windows without saving
set w1 to make document
set w1's name to "First window created"
set w1's position to {82, 82}
set w2 to make window at after the last window
set w2's name to "Back window"
set w2's position to {60, 60}
set w3 to make window at before window 1
set w3's name to "Front window"
set w3's position to {104, 104}
set w4 to make window at my end
set w4's name to "...is my end"
set w4's position to {400, 60}
set w4 to make window at my beginning
set w4's name to "In my beginning..."
set w4's position to {400, 200}
activate
end tell
JD
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