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Re: [OT] Re: Stupid, Stupid Text Features [Was: Can't set creator type]
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Re: [OT] Re: Stupid, Stupid Text Features [Was: Can't set creator type]


  • Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Stupid, Stupid Text Features [Was: Can't set creator type]
  • From: "John C. Welch" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 07:16:18 -0600

On 2/25/04 4:16 AM, "Brennan" <email@hidden> wrote:

> One could hope that the reason we are in such limbo right now with regard
> to metadata and file typing is that Apple is still planning to implement
> some kind of database in the file system, like in the old (and still
> impressive) BeOS.

Doubtful, since Dominic and the rest left the database idea behind because
it was quite problematic.

>
> Even Microsoft is planning to to do this, so we'll not even need to have
> it on the Mac - and (the really scary thing is) users will expect some
> degree of interoperability with whatever Microsoft comes up with. Worst
> cast scenario is Apple hiding its head in the sand and claiming that it's
> not important.

It's not really required for what we want, and MS's implementation isn't
exactly what we're thinking of here. You're really talking about something
the AS/400 has had for decades.

>
> That is apparently what they are doing now, but I find it hard to believe.
> Is Apple really going to let MS lead the 'database file system' charge?
> Here's another interesting and relevant read:
>
> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/24648.html>
>
> (Does anyone know if these guys are still at Apple?)

Last I heard yes, and if you notice, they abandoned the DB FS with BeOS.

>
> Offering eight colored labels is small potatoes compared to what we could
> have in an ideal Finder: The ability to create our own custom fields and
> characteristics for labeling files.
>
> Concepts like 'mood', 'priority', 'last read date', 'last renamed date'
> and so on would all have obvious usefulness over and above the usual
> metadata examples of 'writer', 'director', 'artist' etc.
>
> Imagine if 'creator' really meant 'the app that created the file' instead
> of 'the app that will open it and provide its icon for the Finder'. I've
> often been in situations where that would be a useful distinction to have
> made.

None of which require a database filesystem.

john

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No matter how long the river, the river will reach the sea.
-Eugene Fitch Ware
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