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Re: To shell or not to shell (was Re: URL Access Redux)
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Re: To shell or not to shell (was Re: URL Access Redux)


  • Subject: Re: To shell or not to shell (was Re: URL Access Redux)
  • From: Kevin Bradley <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 01:02:35 -0500

Having read both Ed and Mark's comments re: using shell scripts instead of AS and talking ABOUT shell scripting vs. AS, I'm moved to add my 2 1/2 cents worth:

I've been using AS for a long time (like System 7 or 8) for a lot of little tasks mostly. A quick script tossed off to solve a minor problem here or there. When I worked at the newspaper I used it more (with Quark and Photoshop) and learned to appreciate the power inherent in the language. Since AS Studio I've concentrated more on building apps.

My original post about URL Access illustrates one of the frustrating issues with AS, though. Yes, curl is there and can do what I need. But URL Access should, also, and doesn't or doesn't seem to work.

And over the years, how many of us have bumped our noses into some part of AS that's broken? I just recently had to re-write an AS Studio app because the delay command got broken in Tiger and Tiger users couldn't use my program.

Granted that these sorts of headaches are an occupational hazard for programmers, nonetheless, it is a symptom of what I feel has been a problem with AS for many years. When was the AS Language Guide updated last? The version I have reads 1.3.7. And for a language that is as easy to understand and use as it is, why is all the documentation aimed at system engineers instead of the average user? And why do we so often find things that are broken or unusable because they were implemented badly or just plain don't work? I know that "set end of" will add something to the end of a list, but only because another scripter taught me that, it's not in any of the docs I can find.

Take AS Studio for example. Apple should be promoting the hell out of it. It could be to the Mac what Visual Basic was to Windows. The ability to cobble together a full, working application with just a few lines of AS code is one of the best kept secrets in Mac-dom.

Now, don't get me wrong. I love AS and appreciate Apple's commitment to it. But I feel that it has been given short shrift compared to other technologies on the Mac.
--
Kevin


To accuse others for one's own misfortunes is a sign of want of education.
To accuse oneself shows that one's education has begun.
To accuse neither oneself nor others shows that one's education is complete.
-- Epictetus


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