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Re: Finding Filenames that contain a certain string
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Re: Finding Filenames that contain a certain string


  • Subject: Re: Finding Filenames that contain a certain string
  • From: "Mark J. Reed" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:35:08 -0400

I don't see how either the ongoing changes in English usage or the
internationality or Englishness (alleged or actual) of AppleScript's
syntax is relevant here.  At issue, beyond the problem raised by the
OP, is the appropriateness or in- of "do shelll script"-based
solutions on this list.  I have already made my position on that issue
clear, I think, but to sum up:
"We're here; we're shell; get used to it.."
:)


On 7/20/07, Bill Briggs <email@hidden> wrote:

At 9:59 AM -0700 7/20/07, Michelle Steiner wrote: On Jul 20, 2007, at 9:43 AM, Philip Aker wrote:


The difference is that "do shell script" involves using a scripting language other than Applescript. In order to use it, you have to know at least one additional scripting language.

 True. Begs the question as to what is "pure English" though.

 I disagree.  It doesn't beg a question at all because the question is
irrelevant, even if you substitute "pure Applescript" for "pure English".


Actually, it doesn't "beg the question", because "beg the question" doesn't mean "beg or demand that the question be asked", which is how most people use it these days (incorrectly). That phrase already has a perfectly good meaning and if people want to say that so and so "demands that we raise the question", then say it that way. Please don't say it begs the question. It doesn't.


The modern "begs the question" is the shortened form of "beggar the question" which is an expression in formal logic that is best illustrated with a quote from the web site of Paul Brians of WSU English Dept.


"An argument that improperly assumes as true the very point the speaker is trying to argue for is said in formal logic to "beg the question." Here is an example of a question-begging argument: "This painting is trash because it is obviously worthless." "


Take the opportunity to educate your friends and colleagues. Instances like this force us to ask the question, "what's wrong with the education system?"


- web (Friday pedant)



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