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Re: is Shane's advice being collated?
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Re: is Shane's advice being collated?


  • Subject: Re: is Shane's advice being collated?
  • From: 2551 <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 22:19:04 +0700

> On 19 Nov 2014, at 21:50, Alex Zavatone <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> Swift isn't fully baked yet.  Some people on the
> Swift forum have mentioned they are leaving and coming back when it is fully baked
>
OK, I know we're veering way OT, but since it's been brought up, that's my view, too. Though when I've said this on other forums, I've been berated on several counts:

"Swift is more javascript-like"
"Swift is easier to learn"
"Objective-C is dead"

I'm sceptical that there's empirical proof for any of those claims. What I do know is, for me at least, neither Objective-C nor Swift are the problem. If you can learn one language you can learn any other, more or less.

The mountain that you have to climb is the bizarro world of the Cocoa APIs. There's just no way round that hump, and I don't think it makes much difference in itself whether you're wearing Swift-coloured pants or Objective-C coloured pants as you fight your way up that trail.

However, at least for the time being, you'll find more stackoverfolow, cocoa-dev and similar-site threads with boilerplate solution code in Objective C than Swift for many common problems you'll face as you're learning Cocoa. That for me is the overwhelming reason for at least the next 12 to 24 months why I'd recommend Objective-C over Swift for Cocoa newbies (and I count myself among those, having only about 18 months Cocoa experience under my belt thus far).



Best


Phil
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 >Re: is Shane's advice being collated? (From: Charles Arthur <email@hidden>)
 >Re: is Shane's advice being collated? (From: Shane Stanley <email@hidden>)
 >Re: is Shane's advice being collated? (From: 2551 <email@hidden>)
 >Re: is Shane's advice being collated? (From: John Day <email@hidden>)
 >Re: is Shane's advice being collated? (From: Alex Zavatone <email@hidden>)

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