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Re: "If you build it, they will come" [Re: Sal]
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Re: "If you build it, they will come" [Re: Sal]


  • Subject: Re: "If you build it, they will come" [Re: Sal]
  • From: edmund ronald <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 14:32:00 +0100

As S.J. once said to me , "you are guilty of muddy thinking". Apple like many other companies use standard components and custom ones, things they need that they share with the industry and things they design that they don't share. There is no reason to put scripting in the "core advantage" category, although one might argue that "shell" is one of the things which made Unix so successful :)

HyperCard was Apple's innovation which got buried and a piece of it was then repurposed as an automation tool because they already had it - now it may be time for them to sponsor a new tool:

User scripting is a tool which should be shared, because end-user scripting will become a necessity with IoT.

Every IoT object will need user scripts - because that's what they're for, to have behaviors. And these scripts will need to be industry standard. 

As for Google "cloning" stuff, I don't think OS X or Next OS or whatever you care to call it is exactly an innovation, just because you buy something or hire somebody who made a  Unix clone (Avi Tevanian) doesn' mean you innovated. There's a full Unix set of scripting utilities and shell scripts running in every Mac, and it certainly gets the job done for ... engineers.

Edmund
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On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 2:44 AM, has <email@hidden> wrote:
On 19/11/2016 01:07, edmund ronald wrote:
The problem is that the Mac marketshare is insufficient  to support end to end technologies.
That's why Mac OS is built on top of an open-source foundation.

Actually macOS is built on top of an OSS foundation cos that's what the NeXTSTEP OS was built on, and macOS is made out of repurposed NeXTSTEP.


A tech based on a cross-platform open source tool language is what is needed here.

Wanted by users, perhaps. Needed by Apple? Can't imagine why. Apple needs something that gives them a clear advantage over Google for the next several years (i.e. as long as it takes Google to make their own clone). Why make it any easier for Google to catch up? See: "Unique Selling Point".

While you lead the field, you keep the best stuff to yourself. Only reason to OSS it is when you see the competition closing, and you want to upset your rival's inertia by splitting its audience between their stuff and yours. By which time, assuming you've been doing your job right, you're already well on your way to launching your _next_ Big New Thing, and pulling away from them again with that. Repeat ∞ times.

As I say: never regret trashing your old product as a way to boost your new. Especially if you can strew that trash all over the roadway behind you. ;)


has

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