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On 19.09.2013, at 16:13, Matthew Chung <email@hidden>

wrote:

Just to add 2 cents,

my situation is different from Ricks but I like the idea of being able to use the simulator, capture the btle packets and viewing them in wireshark. That is not possible with the device, or at least I wouldn't know how to do it.

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Etan Kissling <email@hidden> wrote:

Complaining won't fix it :-)

> On 19.09.2013, at 08:39, "Rick Mann" <email@hidden> wrote:
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>> On Sep 18, 2013, at 23:31 , Etan Kissling <email@hidden> wrote:
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>> Would a demo mode be an alternative within the app? So that the app can be used with a simulated peripheral? This also helps users to understand what your app does without buying the accessory.
>
> Of course, and I've been championing that in the company, but so far, they don't think it's worth the effort. It's getting traction.
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> But it's still a lot of work for me, and the fact that I was able to use Bluetooth (with pain) in 6.1 makes it all the more frustrating. I would rather Apple have put another engineer in the Bluetooth team to work on this than re-skinning the OS.
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>>> On 19.09.2013, at 08:19, "Rick Mann" <email@hidden> wrote:
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>>>> On Sep 18, 2013, at 22:57 , Etan Kissling <email@hidden> wrote:
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>>>> I'm also developing Bluetooth-based apps and did not feel such an urge for a aimulator. What does prevent you from using physical devices to test the Bluetooth-based parts of your app?
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>>> My app depends pretty heavily on BLE to "unlock" the rest of the UI. I can't test very much of my app without BLE.
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>>> The device is slow. Maybe if Apple hadn't gotten rid of Firewire, or if they'd move to Thunderbolt, but for now, it takes a long time to install a build, and to exchange debugging data, on a device.
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>>> Rick
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References:
	>iOS 7 Simulator Bluetooth nonexistent (From: Rick Mann <email@hidden>)
	>Re: iOS 7 Simulator Bluetooth nonexistent (From: Chris Miles <email@hidden>)
	>Re: iOS 7 Simulator Bluetooth nonexistent (From: Rick Mann <email@hidden>)
	>Re: iOS 7 Simulator Bluetooth nonexistent (From: Rick Mann <email@hidden>)
	>Re: iOS 7 Simulator Bluetooth nonexistent (From: Etan Kissling <email@hidden>)
	>Re: iOS 7 Simulator Bluetooth nonexistent (From: Rick Mann <email@hidden>)
	>Re: iOS 7 Simulator Bluetooth nonexistent (From: Etan Kissling <email@hidden>)
	>Re: iOS 7 Simulator Bluetooth nonexistent (From: Rick Mann <email@hidden>)
	>Re: iOS 7 Simulator Bluetooth nonexistent (From: Etan Kissling <email@hidden>)
	>Re: iOS 7 Simulator Bluetooth nonexistent (From: Matthew Chung <email@hidden>)