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Re: EOF Advocacy, Open Source?
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Re: EOF Advocacy, Open Source?


  • Subject: Re: EOF Advocacy, Open Source?
  • From: "Ed Baskerville" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 15:22:19 -0700

d) (a) + (b), a la Darwin. Support EOF as part of Cocoa, with community
help. That'll (1) give Apple more development resources on the project; (2)
get the technology to those who need it sooner; (3) give Apple brownie
points.

Somehow I doubt we'll get (c). We may get a straight "no" without a reason,
however, which is valid but disappointing.

Another thing: why doesn't Apple create an infrastructure for third-party
open-source classes and frameworks to be rolled into Cocoa?

I think that's something that would be worth pursuing for Apple; done right,
it could add a lot of cool features to Cocoa quickly. Again, Think Darwin.
Obviously I'm not expecting the stuff Apple develops internally to become
open source, since Cocoa is decidedly in the
we-won't-open-source-this-because-it's-proprietary category. But allowing
open-source development of add-ons that eventually became part of the Apple
frameworks would be very cool.

--Ed Baskerville

----- Original Message ----- >
> From: Ondra Cada <email@hidden>
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:27:55 +0200
> To: Scott Anguish <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: EOF Advocacy
> Cc: email@hidden, email@hidden
> Reply-To: email@hidden
>
> Heather,
>
> hallo? Are you here?
>
> >>>>>> Scott Anguish (SA) wrote at Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:53:27 -0400:
> SA> Heather Hickman is the Cocoa Technology Manager (I hope that's your
> SA> title Heather) and she really seemed to listen to this (over and over
> SA> and over) at WWDC.. I'm sure she reads this list
> SA>
> SA> but I doubt that there is much you can do to convince Apple of this.
>
> Well, looks to me Apple can do one of the following:
>
> (a) support EOF as part of Cocoa (even for extra money that would be
great:
> I would pay at least $XXX for that, perhaps even more, and I bet I'm not
> alone);
> (b) publish the sources, so as _we_ can do that, somewhat like it happened
> ages ago with MusicKit;
> (c) tell us straight something as "Nope, we won't do (a) nor (b) since
> Oracle paid us a fortune not to do so, so as their proprietary API is the
> best way for OS X. So forget portable and easily made database apps in OS
X,
> and be happy".
>
> Well, is there any (d)? I mean, any sensible one?
> ---
> Ondra Cada
> OCSoftware: email@hidden http://www.ocs.cz
> private email@hidden http://www.ocs.cz/oc


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