Re: ---Help Needed for CocoaVitae.com--- Was: Re: Docs
Re: ---Help Needed for CocoaVitae.com--- Was: Re: Docs
- Subject: Re: ---Help Needed for CocoaVitae.com--- Was: Re: Docs
- From: Fatih Erarslan <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:04:13 -0500
On Friday, August 24, 2001, at 09:49 AM, l.m.orchard wrote:
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Have either of you been to http://www.cocoadev.com, the Cocoa Dev wiki?
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What you describe is already underway there.
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I don't mean to criticize you but cocodev.com lacks many important
features that I described. I am asking for help and collaboration, not
competition. It is that simple.
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(...snip...)
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> -Class Docs,
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You mean like this?
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http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?NSAutoreleasePool
Yes it points to: Apple's documentation:
http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosx/Cocoa/Reference/Foundation/ObjC_classic/
Classes/NSAutoreleasePool.html
Is this your class doc library?
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> -Code Library (Binary and Source),
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> -Sample Code with Tutorials, Articles,
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You mean like these bits of sample code?
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http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?CocoaSampleCode
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You mean like these articles?
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http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?WindowShade
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http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?GlobalModifications
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Yeah that is all great but it is still not very mature.
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> -CocoaVitae Collaboration System (NOT a message threading or mailing
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> list),
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Wiki is a freeform authoring and discussion system for collaborative
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content creation.
I can go ahead and edit your site put gibrish in there, it that what you
mean by simplicity?
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People have laughed at its simplicity or primitive features, but it's
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actually pretty powerful.
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> -Cocoa Chronicles: (Shared) Profiles of New Developers controlled by
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> experienced Developers (Cocoa notes, Exercises, Readings, etc.)
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Like the profiles of these developers?
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http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?CocoaDevUsers
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No it is not what i mean.
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I'm not trying to squash competition, because I'd love to see more sites
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like this. But there are a few things I think you'd have to address
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before your community would take off.
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I am not a competitor to your site. I would prefer being a sister site
with yours though:)
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First thing is, I know I don't have access to WebObjects. I haven't
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looked into it, but are there free non-time-limited developer kits? If
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so,
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I might consider helping, but otherwise I'll stick with Perl for my
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no-strings-attached free community development. (Or PHP, or Java, or
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Python, or... no language wars, please)
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WebObjects is the coolest thing out there for the Web. You should learn
it if you are a Cocoa developer.
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Second thing is that you'll find it's not technology or whizbang
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features
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that will fuel your community. I'm just worried that maybe you think it
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will, because you start out with a software feature list and too many
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community builders have thought that.
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Well it has to be a good looking, stable, consistent, and well organized
site.
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Basically, what I'm saying is, make sure you pay as much attention to
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the
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human element of the community as you do to the software component.
As you can see i am trying to communicate with people here, that is the
human element.
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I'd really, really, really hate to see you forge ahead with a grand
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community
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software project and find that no one beats down the doors.
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I don't understand what you are talking about. what do you mean by
forging?