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Re: why Obj-C
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Re: why Obj-C


  • Subject: Re: why Obj-C
  • From: Andy Lee <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 01:03:09 -0500

At 3:23 PM +1000 4/5/02, Matthew Johnson wrote:
>
> How many languages do you know ? I say the more the better.

[...]
I disagree,

I don't necessarily agree with "the more [languages] the better" either, though a lot of mega-black-belt programmers seem to feel that way so I'm not going to argue too hard about it until I'm a lot richer and more powerful than they are. ;)

The more languages I have under my belt the less expert I become in the lot. Maybe I am getting old and
feeble but I seem to of reached a limit in which if I learn something new I forget something old ;)

I suspect it's healthier to keep learning new things even if it does mean forgetting old things. Aren't there studies that say ongoing learning helps you keep your marbles as you age? I could swear I read that somewhere, but I, er, forget where.

And its my own time constraint issues that is my major problem. I had a very small
oportunity to bring OSX development into our site and to impress the hard core UNIX programmers that I work with of how
easy it was going to be to write code for this sucker.

Oh boy, that's a recipe for disappointment: high time pressure, high expectations, and low knowledge of the complex thing you're pitching to your co-workers. I can understand feeling negatively about Cocoa after such an experience, since it probably feels like it reflects on you personally. That's unfortunate, because under other circumstances you might like Cocoa very much.

They were blown away with how long it took me to build a GUI with
IB (about a hour and I had never picked up IB before (thanks apple)). But both them and I hated the syntax of Obj-C. And
two weeks later I am still battling with the syntax. I guess I expected it to be miraculously easy.

That was a naive assumption. In fairness, you did mention being a GUI newbie. But seeing a bunch of windows and buttons and assuming it's a small step to a completed product -- that's a mistake *business* folks usually make, not us programmers who have been screwed over by this time and again.

Apologies for venting in public :)


No worries!

(I'm not Australian, I just like that expression.)

--Andy
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